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Hanging on difficult walls

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A client recently asked if i could hang a picture on a mirrored wall (no fixings or ceiling hanging system).

I was asked to use sticky pads. Concerned this wouldn't work i used a lot but the piece still came off the wall after 2 weeks.

Does anyone have any experience hanging on to a mirror/able to suggest a better solution to this?

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This is crazy, the chances of anything sticky onto the surface on mirror tiles successfully, for any meaningful time is extremely small. Like no chance! What is more you don't know what is behind those tiles, if you drill holes into the wall. This is a liability nightmare and the best thing to do ,is let the customer sort this out, not you!
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Very wise advice - but ..
If you really had to do it, then cut out a 6"square of 15mm pine or even a piece of melamine faced chipboard. Stick that to the mirrored wall with glazier's silicone. It would need supported for the 24hours to go off. Then screw in a suitable hanging point and hang your picture.
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Okay cool, Thank you very much!!!! :)
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Have you tried Epoxy?

Depending on the weight of the picture that might work. I'm thinking similar stuff to what they use to stick
rear-view mirrors to car windscreens. The main thing is to ensure the mirror glass is perfectly clean and there
is sufficient contact area. Once stuck though it's not going to come off easily.
Maybe sticking a wooden batten to the mirror and hanging it from that(?) Or two battens - one as a failsafe which
would not directly support the picture but would 'catch' it in the event of the primary batten detaching.

What ever you do it's not an ideal situation. :roll:
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Gravity is all present. Glass is a non-porous material that is quite smooth. Yes there are some super epoxy and other compounds adhesives.

What will be the outcome of the mirror when the client wants to move the placement of the hanging art?
Will the adhesive fail?
Can the adhesive be removed?
will the mirror be damaged?
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Hi Jerome,

I was thinking about the reversibility issue as well, but you explained it perfectly.
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I still consider silicone a reversible solution. First use a long bladed knife to remove the fixing then a flat sharp blade to remove the silicone from the glass.
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Nitromoors usually will remove the silicone residue left after cutting through the silicone. Still not my idea of a fun job. I think I'd prefer to give that one a miss, thank you very much.
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Sounds a nightmare: even if you get the fixings to stick to the mirror, who's to say the mirror itself was stuck to the wall properly!

Don't envy you this, and personally I'd give it a complete swerve.

(If you're not careful, you could end up on one of those accident-claim TV ads with a creepy talking baby. :shock: )

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks so much for all your support on this, hadn't realised there were more posts.

In the end I consulted a professional art installer and made the referral.
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CT1 is the high grade trade adhesive/sealant. trouble is it takes 72 hours to cure...sore arms me thinks!
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Have you tried these from Lion ? https://www.lionpic.co.uk/p/38071/Hangi ... -10-plates

Not sure about the weight youare using.

Regards

JB
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