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I've found the 'sugi ban' process allows gives you the base to then add a paint finish that will
get close to the Driftwood look.
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Image

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gesso wrote:I've found the 'sugi ban' process allows gives you the base to then add a paint finish that will
get close to the Driftwood look.
Forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is the sugi ban process ??????? What ever it is the effect looks fantastic. :?:
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gesso wrote:I've found the 'sugi ban' process allows gives you the base to then add a paint finish that will
get close to the Driftwood look.



I Just goggled sugi ban, and found this you tub link. Some one ells on this thread mentioned trying this. Thank you. https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=225 ... Lf4NAanquE
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prospero wrote:Image

:coffee:
Looks authentic Mark, what does it make your beer taste like though.
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How interesting. I have a propane torch for use as a weed killer (works well and is strangely therapeutic)

Will have to give this a try after the hols and see what I can do.

http://shousugiban.com/shou-sugi-ban-101/

And a video too. A bit messy but no more onerous than many other hand finishes.

http://shousugiban.com/zen-meditation-o ... an-boards/
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This stuff is really interesting. I had no idea that people did this sort of thing!

Here's a variation on the same sort of thing which I have just found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xoBjpXOlyM
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Here is another you tube link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7vjiTQpNQw
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Interesting. :D

My first thought was "Sod that for a lark".

Then I thought about it a bit and came to the conclusion, "Sod that for a lark." :lol:
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prospero wrote:Interesting. :D

My first thought was "Sod that for a lark".

Then I thought about it a bit and came to the conclusion, "Sod that for a lark." :lol:
A hell of a lot of work, might be worth trying it on a small scale, just for curiosity.
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gesso wrote:I've found the 'sugi ban' process allows gives you the base to then add a paint finish that will
get close to the Driftwood look.
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I did a little time and motion study with some homemade driftwood frames. :D

I had two frames approx 4ftsq to do so I got some 8ft planks 90mm wide from Wickes and chop them in half. that didn't take long.
Clamped them in a workmate and attacked them with the Dremel tool I mentioned earlier. This was follwed by a good going over with a wire wheel
on a power drill.

Image

Took about an hour to carve them up. Make a nice rustic coffee table at this stage. :lol:

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There is a hole on the far side which was a dead knot. I filled that in later.
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What they became...

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After joining the planks I added a deep hockeystick. The liner is a 2" bevel painted flat off white.

I little bit of refinement to the distressing after joining - coat of shellac - coat of light grey ripple paint. Followed by a wash of mucky browny-green. When that was dry an overall coat of silver/gold mix. then another coat of grey ripple (well diluted). when that was thoroughly dry I sanded it a bit to reveal the underlayers, going down to bare wood on a few edges. Quick waxing and finished.

I won't go into the costing in this section, but suffice it to say that if I had done it with factory moulding I would have needed to charge about 100% more and it wouldn't have been much quicker. Not that there is a factory equivalent... :?

Had fun too. :ninja:
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All these recipes to try...

How do you secure the picture to the 2" liner? Do you lose 2" of the picture all round, or... more likely, what?

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The liner has a rebate. :wink:
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Thats realy nice, how did you fit the hockey moulding to the driftwood? does the driftwood have a rebate.
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Hi Peter,

I like that! Very nice job! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Not having done this myself, I had no idea what to expect, or what it would look like. Can I ask, do you need to have a good degree of control to get the effect to look like this, or does the dremel naturally follow the grain of the wood?
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On pine the tool will go with the rays in the grain. You just keep stroking it lengthways. You don't really have to be too careful, quite the opposite in fact. :lol: The main thing is not to leave any patches of the original planed surface, but the final wire brushing will scuff up any remaining smooth sections.
I should have added that it looks better if you slightly scallop the outer edge. With softer woods such as Obeche you maybe have to go a bit steadier. Just realised that the bit in the Dremel was a quite dull when I did those boards. With a fresh bit it would have taken half the time. The Dremel sanding drums are also useful for this job.

The hockey stick just drops right into the outer so the backs of both are flush. Glued in with cartridge glue which also acts as a filler. Few pins though from the inside is all that's needed.

btw. There was a question raised on the Grumble this week concerning "Hand Scraped" timber. This is a phrase I had never come across. Turns out it's a technique much used on flooring to give an aged effect. Go to yooootooob and search for "hand scraped floors" or suchlike. There are some quite fascinating vids.
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prospero wrote:What they became...

Image

After joining the planks I added a deep hockeystick. The liner is a 2" bevel painted flat off white.

I little bit of refinement to the distressing after joining - coat of shellac - coat of light grey ripple paint. Followed by a wash of mucky browny-green. When that was dry an overall coat of silver/gold mix. then another coat of grey ripple (well diluted). when that was thoroughly dry I sanded it a bit to reveal the underlayers, going down to bare wood on a few edges. Quick waxing and finished.

I won't go into the costing in this section, but suffice it to say that if I had done it with factory moulding I would have needed to charge about 100% more and it wouldn't have been much quicker. Not that there is a factory equivalent... :?

Had fun too. :ninja:
Very hansom they look as well, amazing what can be achieved with a bit of imagination and perseverance.
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