'Antique Pine' Moulding

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'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by joh5nny » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 4:30 pm

Have a customer who's looking for something they describe as antique pine. From what I can gather, they mean something that's distressed or rustic in a relatively warm brown. Have had a gander through the usual catalogues but have to say nothing's jumping out. It's a relatively short timescale job, so need something off the shelf rather than trying to create my own. Any inspiration?

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Not your average framer » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 8:47 pm

You need to make it yourself. It's not as daunting as it sounds. What sort of size and shape are you looking for? Perhaps I and maybe a few others can do you a quick demo, with a photo and some details of how it was done.
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Roboframer » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 8:57 pm

Which are the usual catalogues? There's surely plenty that would fit the bill.

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Post by Jonny2morsos » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 10:33 pm

Distressed Pine Frame.jpg
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I gave up framing a few years back but here is an example of a frame I made from a bare wood pine moulding from Rose & Hollis.

The "ageing" was done using a nail punch to made worm holes and the scratching done with the tip of a bradawl. The moulding was stained with Liberon Antique Pine then waxed with dark oak, buffed up and finally dusted with rottenstone.

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by IFGL » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 10:48 pm

nice job!

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by prospero » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 10:57 am

Very nice job. :D

I always think pre-finished 'antique pine' can look a bit naff. Too regimented and a slightly too smooth.
Any 'ding' marks tend to repeat.

It's easy to do it yourself once you have a nice piece of moulding. You can knock it about as much or as little as you want. :P
It's not a bad idea to give the whole frame a coat of shellac, especially on fresh cut stuff. It seals the surface and also any knots.
Raw shellac will give it a very orangey tone. Bleached shellac is better.

One way I found was to get a handful of gravel and place it on the moulding. Then put a chunk of wood on top and bang with a big hammer.
You get a nice random pattern of dings.

It's quite good fun and the results will amaze you. :shock:
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by pramsay13 » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 11:40 am

Liberon have an antique pine wood dye so if it was just the colour they wanted you could use that on any unfinished moulding.
http://www.liberon.co.uk/furniture-and- ... MTM3MjI5fA
If it's to be distressed you can do it yourself or Holroyd do a few pre-distressed such as this one:
http://www.fwholroyd.com/h2000/

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Not your average framer » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 7:08 pm

Roboframer wrote:Which are the usual catalogues? There's surely plenty that would fit the bill.
I think we may have different ideas of what is meant by distressed and rustic looking?
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Not your average framer » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 7:11 pm

A lovely bit of framing johnny. That's a really nice finish!
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Not your average framer » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 7:41 pm

Can we clarify what is expected when something is described as disressed and rustic. I certainly don't expect something which is smooth, shiney, and some fake nail holes pressed into the surface of the wood. To me, I would also expect the stained finish to be distressed and far from glossy.

A good start might be to wet the surface of the wood a few times with water, just to raise the grain a little. I also seal the grain a little with some watered down suitably coloured chalky emulsion paint and wipe off the surplus before it can dry, to control the variations in absorbency in different areas of the grain. I then stain it with some water based stain and a little emulsion paint mixed in to dull the stain nicely.

I'm not that keen upon the fake woodworm and nail holes, but if you are going to do them, it's not all that easy to make them look convincing. I'm a bit more into the knocked about look myself, which is quite easy to do with a hand full chunky drive way chain wrapped up in a couple of layers of an old bathroom towel. The idea being to bruise and take away the newness of any corners and edges. Any comments?
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Roboframer » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 8:12 pm

Just this really ....
joh5nny wrote: It's a relatively short timescale job, so need something off the shelf rather than trying to create my own.

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by prospero » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 8:17 pm

For fake woodworm holes the best thing I've found is a fine engraving tool in a Dremel. It cuts nice, crisp
edges to the holes whereas a drill bit or a nail isn't quite as convincing. OK, it's a fine point but if you
are going to fake something, do it right. :P You can also drag the engraving tool over the surface to simulate
worm tunnel tracks.

There are lots of ways to 'distress' wood and it's a personal choice.
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by prospero » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 8:19 pm

Roboframer wrote:Just this really ....

" It's a relatively short timescale job, so need something off the shelf rather than trying to create my own."

Why not just use the shelf? :lol:
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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Roboframer » Wed 30 Nov, 2016 11:29 pm

prospero wrote:Why not just use the shelf? :lol:

Because I always find it best to avoid situations where you only have your shelf to blame.



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The thread starter, to date, has not visited the forum since starting the thread, so actually did have time to go and get all the gear required to knacker his own moulding after all !!

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Jamesnkr » Thu 01 Dec, 2016 9:56 am

joh5nny wrote: Have had a gander through the usual catalogues but have to say nothing's jumping out. It's a relatively short timescale job, so need something off the shelf rather than trying to create my own. Any inspiration?
So you've spent half an hour going through catalogues, and then posted on a forum and come back three times.

Or you pick up a bit of obeche, paint it a bit and bash it about for five minutes.

I know which is faster! :evil:

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by IFGL » Thu 01 Dec, 2016 10:47 am

he might not have logged in!

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Re: 'Antique Pine' Moulding

Post by Roboframer » Thu 01 Dec, 2016 10:55 am

That's true but I did ask which catalogues he'd checked, not much point in anyone trawling theirs if he already has!

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