Can anyone point me in the direction of this moulding please?

[Jill Shea]

Any tips gratefully received

(Hopefully image attached )

[Not your average framer]

It looks like it might be something like a St Ives type of frame. These are often frabicated by stacking mouldings, or pieces of wood together to create the shaped profile and then hand finished by painting.

[Jill Shea]

Thanks for this . When you say St Ives frame ,is that a particular style or a brand name? (Sorry - I haven’t come across that name.)

[Jill Shea]

Ah, have just found it on Lion’s website. I see St Ives is the style of frame - sorry to be a bit dim. I’ve seen these but didn’t know their name.

Thanks again

[Not your average framer]

It is often more profitable to fabricate the frame yourself, than but a completed profiles moulding from a supplier. They are often produced by joining mouldings, or strip wood fillets from suppliers Like Rose and Hollis and gluing them together. St Ives frames started as a cheap way of St Ives artists making their own frames and saving money by doing so. They really cheap to make and I've always made my own. It's not actually difficult to do! Hopefully, someone can put up some photos and suggestions of how they have made them. I never taken any photos, so I got nothing to show you.

[BaBaZa]

https://mainlinemouldings.com/index.php ... PageNo=100

[Jill Shea]

So many thanks for these suggestions. Will have a go with Rose & Hollis tray frame and 3/4in spacer.

Fingers crossed!

[Not your average framer]

You'll be fine! After your first one, any others will be easy!

[GeoSpectrum]

I make a lot of these. Very popular.

[Not your average framer]

I would not say that I have made a lot of these as the true St Ives frames have the inner and outer mouldings as of rectangular profiles, but I have made many frames using the same technique using shaped profile moulding instead and as a result they have not all been true St Ives frames. It is a very versatile technique, if that's how you want to use it. It is even possible to have the inner moulding projecting further forward than the outer moulding, to create somethng along the lines of a cassetta moulding. Lots of stacked moulding frames are just variations on this same idea. A lot of frame profiles used a large profiles for gallery type frames are made with a lots more shape to them by adding mouldings which provide more shape and style, but this does not mean that they are costing any more to produce.

The basic ideas and techniques used are derived from the desire to produce larger profile frames which do not require unnecessary levels of material costs. I'm talking about variations on the same techniques. It's well worth thinking about this! Making stunning and imposing frames, without resorting to excessive expense should have a lot going for it in these current and difficult times. Why buy large expensive mouldings at high cost, when you can make something at least as stunning from considerably less? I am thinking that this should be striking a reasonance with some of our members right now. Producing really stunning gallery frames, which look amazing for mere peanuts will surely interest some of our members. Lots framers used to do this at one time, but it has dropped off the radar for many of our modern day framers. Why is this?

[Justintime]

Hi Jill here's a little background to the frame style:
https://ashcraftframing.wordpress.com/2 ... ves-frame/
As far as the comment about it being more profitable to make the frame yourself, that may be true in terms of charging for your labour v's buying it in ready to cut and join but I think it depends how much work you have in at the time and the quality of finish that you require. My experience is that the time it takes me to make one from scratch, fill and sand it ready to paint I could be spending on a far more profitable job. I have tried both ways and my customers appear equally happy with both results.

[Not your average framer]

I fit things together so any gaps a very slight and easily disappear with a couple of coats of thick acrylic paint mixed with thick chalky emulsion. Spending lots of time sanding and filling is a real big problem for me since my stroke, so I avoid as much of it as I can. Sometimes I will apply filler from a tube with my finger, but that's it. If I can do it so can you!

[Jill Shea]

Thanks everyone for these very helpful comments.