Foamcore Spacers on large prints
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Foamcore Spacers on large prints
I have a limited Edition Peter Blake print to do at the moment, it's quite large, 101 x 122cm and because of this I am using 4.4mm waterwhite laminated glass. I have hinged it around the edges onto a sheet of 5mm Foamcore. As you can see from the photo, the moulding is quite chunky with a 3cm rebate. I am not putting a mount around it but want to put a spacer of about 12mm between the glass and the print. I would normally stick 5mm foamcore into the rebate to use as a spacer but now I'm wondering if I should use something a bit more robust, given the weight of the glass.
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Any suggestions what I should use and with regards to the laminated glass, would it be a good idea to secure it within the frame with some clear silicon adhesive perhaps ?Thanks in advance,
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
What about a wooden spacer with a white finish on it, or even a small narrow moulding.
I wouldn't bother with silicone as there can be problems with fumes given off. Don't think you'll need anything if the spacer is robust.
I wouldn't bother with silicone as there can be problems with fumes given off. Don't think you'll need anything if the spacer is robust.
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
Could also use the econspacers from Lion.. They come in white or clear and you just stick them to the edges of the glass...
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/EconoS ... 120,0.aspx
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/EconoS ... 120,0.aspx
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
I usually use econospace from Lion or cut a mountboard to the size i need and glue it to the frame, you can glue 3 stripes of mountboards together for more rigidity.
Also you can use 4mm PVC Forex stripes cut to the size of the frame and in 12 mm width and glue them above the glass.
Good luck
Also you can use 4mm PVC Forex stripes cut to the size of the frame and in 12 mm width and glue them above the glass.
Good luck
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
Due to the weight of the glass I would use a 9mm wooden spacer either painted or covered with mountboard
Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
I wouldn't use a rebate spacer on glass that heavy, especially a foam board one, there's very little area of support. I'd be looking at an inner and outer frame with the glass between them. Better still I wouldn't be looking at heavy glass either, but acrylic.
Another thing, if the print is not dry mounted or otherwise stuck down, and I'm not for a second suggesting you do that, the spacers will trap it and prevent movement just like taping all the way around and the thing could buckle; over that area I'd be surprised if it didn't.
Another thing, if the print is not dry mounted or otherwise stuck down, and I'm not for a second suggesting you do that, the spacers will trap it and prevent movement just like taping all the way around and the thing could buckle; over that area I'd be surprised if it didn't.
Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
I got the idea you had float-mounted it so that the edges were visible. As Robo points out, no way should you have the edges of the print under the spacers. It will buckle and once it has, it would be a serious job to flatten it again.
Also, I would be very wary of using a moulding that size on it's own to support everything. There just isn't enough meat in it to get a strong enough join. Even if you use acrylic glazing.
Using thick glass isn't going to make it stronger, just increasing the risk of catastrophe. I would be quite happy with 2mm glass for that size as long as the frame was stronger. Or had a subframe.
Also, I would be very wary of using a moulding that size on it's own to support everything. There just isn't enough meat in it to get a strong enough join. Even if you use acrylic glazing.
Using thick glass isn't going to make it stronger, just increasing the risk of catastrophe. I would be quite happy with 2mm glass for that size as long as the frame was stronger. Or had a subframe.
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
Sounds like the spacer would be on the print.Bagpuss wrote: a spacer of about 12mm between the glass and the print.
Ditto.prospero wrote:I would be very wary of using a moulding that size on it's own to support everything
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
Hmmm, good advice Gents . I seem to be getting more of these "big" jobs these days ( big for me anyway ) and I often get old movie posters which I would put a spacer in front of. Given that the print edges are not on show and and I hinge the print around the perimeter using Hayaku tape, can anyone suggest an appropriate white subframe that would not encroach too much onto the print ( the Peter Blake signature is about 2cm from the bottom of the print )..
Customers always seem to want a thin frame around a big poster and they take some convincing about the need for a chunkier frame
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Customers always seem to want a thin frame around a big poster and they take some convincing about the need for a chunkier frame
Thanks,
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
There is one way that might do the trick. I'll have to do a doodle..... stand by.
I agree that posters can look good with a minimal frame. Pity they are so huge. If it's acceptable I would always drimount them. Valuable prints are different matter though. They really need a window mount. I realise that big ones create all sorts of problems, not least the logistics of getting oversize materials.
I agree that posters can look good with a minimal frame. Pity they are so huge. If it's acceptable I would always drimount them. Valuable prints are different matter though. They really need a window mount. I realise that big ones create all sorts of problems, not least the logistics of getting oversize materials.
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
This uses a matching spacer on it's side. It does protrude past the sight edge, but unless you have a very wide rebate there is a way round that.
The thin strip of board (2ply should be enough on most things) lifts the spacer and while the edges are covered, they aren't crimped. Quite fine measurements are called for. The print needs a bit of elbow room.
The subframe is optional up to a certain point. You could reinforce the corners with L plates and hope. But it would allow you to use a very narrow-faced moulding on a giant poster.
Sorry for scribbly drawing.
The thin strip of board (2ply should be enough on most things) lifts the spacer and while the edges are covered, they aren't crimped. Quite fine measurements are called for. The print needs a bit of elbow room.
The subframe is optional up to a certain point. You could reinforce the corners with L plates and hope. But it would allow you to use a very narrow-faced moulding on a giant poster.
Sorry for scribbly drawing.
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Re: Foamcore Spacers on large prints
GOD BLESS YOU !!
Only on The Framers Forum can you get such speedy, expert advice, an excellent suggestion Prospero, I'll nick that one
MANY THANKS, ONE AND ALL !
Only on The Framers Forum can you get such speedy, expert advice, an excellent suggestion Prospero, I'll nick that one
MANY THANKS, ONE AND ALL !
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