Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Hi, this is my first post but I've been reading this forum for a while and find it very helpful!
Now about the problem :)

Until recently I was using clamps + manual V nail tool and was quite happy with the frame quality/look. But few weeks ago I decided to buy an underpinner as wanted to save time on Clamping each frame.
Now the frames are more solid, which is good, but I can't tight them as good as with clamps. I can't really say the inner corners have gaps but the difference is noticeable. Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Welcome to the Forum. :D

I think that the problem isn't with the underpinner but the mitres themselves. What are you using to cut the moulding? Guillotines often need a bit of fine tweaking to get the perfect joining angle. The usual thing is to move the left-hand fence toward you a tiny amount.
Ideally, when you come to pin the last corner the faces should be just a gnat's whisker apart.
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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Thank you! I'll add some photos tomorrow to show what I mean.
I'm using Morso F and the cuts look quite neat for me.
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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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I agree with Prospero, sounds like your blades are starting to dull, or are slightly out of alignment, you should get perfect corners without having to clamp.
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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Type "left fence" in the search box top right and have a good read. :lol:
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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Attached an example pics. This is deep rebate oak moulding but I've got a similar problem with a soft wood as well. Need to touch up at the end.
Today ended up clamping the frame and underpinning it while being clamped to make sure these don't split up.
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Re: Underpinner and gaps in the corners

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Deep mouldings in hard wood are always a problem with underpinners. Your method of clamping and then pinning is a good one. Sometimes it's tricky to stack v-nails in hard wood. I never do it. In the case of deep but tall mouldings I would underpin all four corners with a shallow v-nail, toward the inside of the moulding. Then strap clamp it and drill'n'nail near the top. The v-nail just helps keep the joints in alignment while you clamp and nail it.
Sounds a bit of a faff and it is, but you get a good strong corner. :D
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