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Framers vice

Post by Overlander Matt » Tue 05 Feb, 2019 11:46 pm

I'm new to the framing game and on the look out for a framers vice. Has anyone got an unused one or could recommend one?

I see Lion have one for £126 https://www.lionpic.co.uk/search?q=vice or Axminster Tools do a similar looking one for £60 https://www.axminster.co.uk/axcaliber-mitre-vice-103374

Any suggestions much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Wed 06 Feb, 2019 7:14 am

The Stanley 400 vise (American spelling) is no longer manufactured :( most framers have one because either, they started framing using one, or as a backup, or for certain types of moullding better suited to be joined this way. In whatever case, they are in very short supply. They can be purchased online and in the main from the USA but they are very expensive.

I use one of the Stanley 400's and also, a Lion style one that I picked up from eBay.

To answer your question there is very little difference between them.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Wed 06 Feb, 2019 8:23 am

Matt, I meant to have added you are also welcome to try your hand at side pinning using my vice's if you decide to come over for a glass cutting demo/practice.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by jon buck » Wed 06 Feb, 2019 4:48 pm

Hi Matt

I have one that i don't use you can have it for £60.00 its a bit heavy but i can get a quote for postage.

Cheers

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Re: Framers vice

Post by Overlander Matt » Wed 06 Feb, 2019 11:21 pm

jon buck wrote:
I have one that i don't use you can have it for £60.00 its a bit heavy but i can get a quote for postage.
Hi Jon,

Would that be one of the Stanley ones? That might just be of interest. Any idea what sort of costs are involved in shipping?

Thanks,

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Re: Framers vice

Post by jon buck » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 2:20 pm

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Hi Mat
Can parcel up and send for £10.00

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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 3:13 pm

Jon, that looks a solid piece of kit, out of interest, what make is it?

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Re: Framers vice

Post by David McCormack » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 3:24 pm

I think I drink too much tea in a working day but that's about it :oops: :shock:
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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 4:06 pm

For the first time, I totally disagree with you David :o How can you drink too much tea in a day :?

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Re: Framers vice

Post by jon buck » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 4:17 pm

Theres no makers name on it but it weighs 10 kilo

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Re: Framers vice

Post by David McCormack » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 4:20 pm

You're absolutely right Peter, you can't :lol: Cheers :coffee: (can we have a tea emoji on the forum please :D )

Back to topic, is the Axminster framers vice any good? It's the same price new as the one being offered second hand so was just wondering? I have often thought of getting one myself.
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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 4:25 pm

Thanks, Jon :D It sounds a solid piece of kit and as it is very similar to my Axminster vice, I would guess it's an earlier variation.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 4:30 pm

David, to answer your question I consider my Axminster to be equal to the Stanley 400 when it comes to cranking tight the corners. Like all vices, you need a sliver of mount card between the jaws of the vice and the moulding otherwise, the metal will make an indentation even in oak.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by poliopete » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 5:24 pm

A couple more points about the Axminster vice.

It has far superior ergonomic handles than the old Stanley, much easier to tighten if your hands are weakening. Whereas the handles on the Stanley resemble those old red "gate valves" seen in plumbing pipe works. :Slap:

I have mounted my Axminster vice on a 2" block that enables me to join the first two chevrons of a frame in the same corner of my work bench without the first chevron, held in the Stanley, impeeding the second chevron, held in the Axminster, because one swiffles above the other. Hope that makes sense. :? This cuts down on the space taken up on my work bench and the time requied to make a frame using this glueing and clamping technique. :giggle:

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Re: Framers vice

Post by David McCormack » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 6:14 pm

poliopete wrote:Hope that makes sense.
Not one bit Peter :lol:

But nothing is making any sense to me today :Slap:
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Re: Framers vice

Post by Overlander Matt » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 9:38 pm

It sounds like the Axminster vice gets the nod of approval. I guess I need to buy direct from them or make an offer on the used one.

Thank you.

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Re: Framers vice

Post by Not your average framer » Thu 07 Feb, 2019 9:40 pm

I have a an old original Stanley frames vice and have dismantled it and mounted the main part of it onto a 3 foot square solid frame and plywood in the same way as shown in Pete Bingham's book. I use it quite a bit and more recently I have been firing 18 gauge pins into the mitre joins with a compressed air powered nail gun' which produces a very satisfactory result.

Looking at the pictures, I would say that the Axminster Power Tools framing vice is the most similar to the Stanley and at half the price of the one from Lion that's the one I would personally go for.
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Re: Framers vice

Post by jon buck » Sat 09 Feb, 2019 10:51 pm

Vice now sold let it go for £25.00 didn't,t realise you could pick one up for £60.00.

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