Help with framing an oil painting please.......
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Help with framing an oil painting please.......
I have bought the above painting for myself, but have never framed an oil before....where do I start? Gold frame or a coloured frame to complement the painting? Do I use slips? It is 12"x10", canvas on board and stapled. Any ideas would be gratefully appreciated, as it is an atmospheric and ghostly painting and I would like to do it justice!
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
I'll get the ball rolling...
Outer blue and gold by Ashworth & Thompson + 1.5in painted slip + inner flat gold slip
Outer blue and gold by Ashworth & Thompson + 1.5in painted slip + inner flat gold slip
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....
That's a more aesthetic than a prctical question, so opinions will vary.
I'm thinking clean lines without any twiddly bits. Not too 'architectural'. The painting itself is very 60's style. Not so much 'school of' Davis Shepherd as peeking though the classroom window. The subject is very strong, but note there is no far distance an not any foreground to speak of. Maybe start with a canvas wrapped bevel liner - not too wide. 1/2" is plenty. Then, a 3" wide frame at least on top of that. The choice of that size moulding ready finished is not all that spectacular. If I were doing it I wold build a frame from three sections. A flat area bounded by two gold mouldings: both the same finish and general style, but the outer one bigger than the inner. You might be able to find two finished mouldings that fit the bill, but as I say, the choices are somewhat limited. The middle 'panel' could be a quite dark, quite textural finish. Some of the cross-sawn rough pines that Simons do come to mind.
Just my fourpenneth. As usual there will be a thousand different ways of doing it and they will all be 'right'.
btw. This was a very popular style of that period. The good old 'box' moulding (like a figure 4). It looks very dated now, unless you are deliberately going retro. But the pattern I describe is more a nod towards rather than a literal copy of that style.

That's a more aesthetic than a prctical question, so opinions will vary.
I'm thinking clean lines without any twiddly bits. Not too 'architectural'. The painting itself is very 60's style. Not so much 'school of' Davis Shepherd as peeking though the classroom window. The subject is very strong, but note there is no far distance an not any foreground to speak of. Maybe start with a canvas wrapped bevel liner - not too wide. 1/2" is plenty. Then, a 3" wide frame at least on top of that. The choice of that size moulding ready finished is not all that spectacular. If I were doing it I wold build a frame from three sections. A flat area bounded by two gold mouldings: both the same finish and general style, but the outer one bigger than the inner. You might be able to find two finished mouldings that fit the bill, but as I say, the choices are somewhat limited. The middle 'panel' could be a quite dark, quite textural finish. Some of the cross-sawn rough pines that Simons do come to mind.
Just my fourpenneth. As usual there will be a thousand different ways of doing it and they will all be 'right'.
btw. This was a very popular style of that period. The good old 'box' moulding (like a figure 4). It looks very dated now, unless you are deliberately going retro. But the pattern I describe is more a nod towards rather than a literal copy of that style.

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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
Personally I'd steer clear of gold - gold is 'warm' and the colours in your painting are 'cold'
It's a train and trains are made from metal - silver and gun metal tones would be good, if you have a slip make it much narrower than the frame, which needs to be substantial - it's a train!
Also, if you have a slip, consider glass; consider MUSEUM glass - between the slip and the frame (and seal the back) ask yourself which you'd rather do, clean a painting or clean a piece of glass.
You've got two tones of grey going on in that picture, personally (again) I'd probably go for something like Larson Juhl Ferossa 'iron' for a 'spotlight' effect (dark around light)It's also quite a simple image, so keep the frame simple - avoid changes of colour and busy-ness - don't let the frame make the art jealous!
It's a train and trains are made from metal - silver and gun metal tones would be good, if you have a slip make it much narrower than the frame, which needs to be substantial - it's a train!
Also, if you have a slip, consider glass; consider MUSEUM glass - between the slip and the frame (and seal the back) ask yourself which you'd rather do, clean a painting or clean a piece of glass.
You've got two tones of grey going on in that picture, personally (again) I'd probably go for something like Larson Juhl Ferossa 'iron' for a 'spotlight' effect (dark around light)It's also quite a simple image, so keep the frame simple - avoid changes of colour and busy-ness - don't let the frame make the art jealous!
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
I wasn't thinking shinny gold John (Robo).
More heavily distressed with a good helping of grey wash.
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
Thought I'd update you on progress......I've decided on an Arqadia moulding, either 166790400 or 141790400 (a silver/pewter colour with a rivet effect.....reflects the way the train is made) with a 1" neutral coloured flat slip, then a dark silver/pewter coloured slip. I haven't decided on how big a frame as yet until the moulding arrives!
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
Mmmmm, in this particular case, hand finishing would be a great way to produce a frame and slip which perfectly matches and complements the painting.
As it happens, I've got something on hand, which I hope makes the point. Unfortunately, it has been mounted, but not yet framed. So, to paraphase Blue Peter, "Here's one I prepared earlier".
This picture is much stronger and more colourful that the painting in question and therefore I could really go for it on the hand finished mount, without over doing the effect.
It's a triple mount with the two inner mount reveals hand finished to complement the picture and the bronze coloured bevel has been painted with Lion's Liquid metal "Blackened bronze", which is a perfect match to the bronze tones in the picture.
The camera flash spoils the colour match really between the hand finished bevel and the picture, but without the flash it's the dogs.......!
As it happens, I've got something on hand, which I hope makes the point. Unfortunately, it has been mounted, but not yet framed. So, to paraphase Blue Peter, "Here's one I prepared earlier".
This picture is much stronger and more colourful that the painting in question and therefore I could really go for it on the hand finished mount, without over doing the effect.
It's a triple mount with the two inner mount reveals hand finished to complement the picture and the bronze coloured bevel has been painted with Lion's Liquid metal "Blackened bronze", which is a perfect match to the bronze tones in the picture.
The camera flash spoils the colour match really between the hand finished bevel and the picture, but without the flash it's the dogs.......!
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Re: Help with framing an oil painting please.......
I agree with NYAF, I think a hand finished frame would look great, and the Roberson liquid metal range of paints could pick up the colour of the train perfectly.
I also like the Arqadia Ferrosa range - the pewter and iron colours are great, and I use them quite alot.
If it was mine I would use an outer frame with metal finish to compliment the train (gilded or painted), a middle scoop or flat section with painted finish to match the cream/light colours and then a narrow inner moulding finished in the same metal colour.
I also like the Arqadia Ferrosa range - the pewter and iron colours are great, and I use them quite alot.
If it was mine I would use an outer frame with metal finish to compliment the train (gilded or painted), a middle scoop or flat section with painted finish to match the cream/light colours and then a narrow inner moulding finished in the same metal colour.
