Under-pinners

[topbrand]

Having used a Minigraf4 for 18 years I have just realised I am usung it back to front.
It has an adjustable table attached which swivells and I have alwas pinned withe the moulding coming towards me. Every picture of an underpinner i see you seem to pin form the inside. I have tried to do this but find frames larger than 20" are too far away to see whats going on. I wonder if any other members have had this problem. By theway I am on the round side.

[mikeysaling]

i have a small cassese (which i don't think is adjustable) and it underpins as you describe . I presume if your minig is adjustable its a matter of personal preference and also space . must say with a large frame it would be handy to do the last two corners 'away' from me!

[guzzijim]

I can do both ways, got my Morso underpinner on a butchers block type stand with castors, made it the right height for large frames to be supported by my bench, real space saver.
Anyone else with a Morso UPM know how to use the additional top pressure pads ( if that's the right term)

[Gesso&Bole]

I dont like to stand 'inside' the frame, I have my underpinner cut into the middle of the long side of a 6ft by 4ft workbench, and I stand behind, with the bench supporting the moulding. Today I did a frame that was 1700 x 445 with the onset of middle age spread, I dont think I would have got inside that one if I had tried! (Sorry I'm back in mm there)

[Trinity]

I recognise these issues so much. I've made a right good job of my shed STUDIO! working with what I've got. The bad news is I can't handle a 3m lenght of moulding on the morso without cutting it down first and that can be a beggar, and I haven't the room to do a reverse thrust on the underpinner like Gesso and others, which I know would be easier. Good news fellas is that wifey has eyes on said STUDIO! for a holiday let. From her very lips she said tonight "why don't you build yourself one bloody great big shed for all of your junk and let me have this". Now's not the time to debate one man's junk is..... thought I.

[guzzijim]

I recognise these issues so much. I've made a right good job of my shed STUDIO! working with what I've got. The bad news is I can't handle a 3m lenght of moulding on the morso without cutting it down first

I work from a garden workshop too, got over the 3meter moulding thing by adding a trap door in side of workshop, it original had a fold down tunnel but the wind blew it off last winter, 70mph gale!!
Will try and add some phots if I can figure out procedure, ( help).

[Roboframer]

Will try and add some phots if I can figure out procedure, ( help).

OK - you will need a camera, preferably a digital one. Turn it on and point it at the thing you want to post a photo of, there should be a small screen on the back of the camera. When you see, on the screen, what you want to capture, press the big button on top of the camera.

Report back after that stage for further instructions.

[guzzijim]

OK - you will need a camera, preferably a digital one. Turn it on and point it at the thing you want to post a photo of, there should be a small screen on the back of the camera. When you see, on the screen, what you want to capture, press the big button on top of the camera.

Report back after that stage for further instructions.

Funny Ha Ha,

Right, resize to ? x ? pixels, change to sRGB , save as JPEG, what next ?

[Roboframer]

800x600 max, (if you want the image for anything else then save it 'as'......) then, after clicking 'post a reply' go to 'upload attachment' then 'browse' - find and select your saved/resized picture and click on 'add the file'

There's other ways like a link to your own website or an image hosting site like photobucket, but above is the best way.

[John]

Click here for a guide to uploading images.

[guzzijim]

The pipe below hatch is dehumidifier outlet, pipe eves to eves is power supply.

Will add some more pics later.

[guzzijim]

More pictures on my workshop.

[CanvasChris]

nice setup there... what size is the workshop... it looks like a Tardis!!!

[guzzijim]

nice setup there... what size is the workshop... it looks like a Tardis!!!

10ft x 14ft
" It looks like a Tardis", that's what a 15mm wide angle lens does for you, plus some photoshop to straighten some of the converging verticals.

It's fully insulated with double floor and double glazed door and windows curtsey of ebay.

There's a waterproof membrane beneath the shiplap boards and roof panels.

[mikeysaling]

really nice home from home

[fusionframer]

I like the workshop setup, where did you get the mount board storage for under your table. I am currently storing mine in an old map chest which is ok, but I would much rather have it under my table. I am having to raise the table height in any case as I have just built my underpinner into the table so would then be able to store my mount board underneath. I could make something (I made a cabinet to store glass out using the wood from a pine bunk bed) but the ones you have look like a better option.

[Roboframer]

Lion do those units http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/ULTIMO ... ,9608.aspx designed to fit under an existing bench.

They also do a unit which doubles up as a bench - you just add the worktop. http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/KEENCU ... 13309.aspx

[misterdiy]

Huh
I have just sold an Ultimo on ebay today which went for an astounding 20 quid. Problems with them are that mountboards slump and end up with a bow in them. We use plan chests now - loads of em, but then we have over 50 mountboards in stock and a pile of Arqadia I bought at auction last year (2500 sheets). Nice tardis though
Steve

[guzzijim]

Lion do those units http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/ULTIMO ... ,9608.aspx designed to fit under an existing bench.

Anyone notice that the three Ultimo's have two wooden spacers between, makes 8 bays instead of 6, also makes it heavy to move forward, now resort to hands and knees and not to pull forward.
I've to move glass cutter to right and lower, can't get a 4ft high sheet in without hitting ceiling.

[Roboframer]

. Problems with them are that mountboards slump and end up with a bow in them. We use plan chests now - loads of em, but then we have over 50 mountboards in stock

'Slumping' is a problem with vertical storage, or can be, regardless of what system you use, I stock pretty much the complete artcare range, in varying quantities; vertically, and do not have a problem with 'slumping' because they are stacked too tightly to allow it, but not so tightly as to cause scuffing when removing/inserting.

If I used horizontal storage I'd need a dedicated room!