Framing a football programme

[pramsay13]

I'm sure there'll be a topic on this somewhere so any links would be appreciated.
I have a football programme in to frame which is from a special final, so it is thick, almost like a book.
What are the options to frame it, the customer just wants the front showing?
I guess I can frame and mount as a normal picture and pad out the back to fill the space.
Or use melinex / mylar - I haven't used this before so again any links or info would be appreciated if this was the best way forward?
Any other options?
Thanks

[Roboframer]

There's a bit here - http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... ine#p71653

[AllFramed]

Hello. I'm just setting out on the Mylar journey. This is my first, nothing fancy but quite large (like the hairdo's of the participants). Poor pics from my phone but the mount board is actually pink to match the pink of the programme. The programme is glossy so the reflection is not a problem, the pic from the side shows more reflection from the glass than the mylar. I have the Jim Miller books (thanks Robo for the details in earlier posts) and used the "book" method for this with the sheet under the cover pulled through and stuck down on the back. To do it again, I might have modified the "magazine" version and stiffened it with a piece of smaller moutnboard behind it. The customer actually likes the fact that it is slightly wavy as it makes it look like an actual programme and not a picture. I also have a Wembley final programme and ticket to do. I will use the "book" method again to float it, wondering whether to float the ticket too or just pop it behind a window.

[pramsay13]

I think I'll have to give it a go!
Where's the best place to buy some if I'm just wanting a small amount to start with and probably won't be ordering any other stuff with it.
Thanks
Peter

[Roboframer]

PEL http://www.preservationequipment.com/St ... ster-Rolls

Or Conservation by Design http://www.conservation-by-design.co.uk ... spx?id=236

[David]

You could also look at the Lion catalogue p127 (No.48) item 7595.

[David McCormack]

Was going to suggest the same

http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product-search ... earch=7595

[pramsay13]

Thanks for the replies. I've ordered some film from Lion and I'll follow Jim Miller's instructions and see what happens.
I'll post pictures if I remember!

[CanvasChris]

This was my first and to date only attempt at something similar. Done it for myself.

Used a poly bag and cut it up, worked just as well.

It had a poster in it which was an A2 so scanned it in and reduced it to A3. Put the original in a bag on the rear for safe keeping along with the race card.

Put a shadow overlay mount on it to give some extra interest visually... looked rather good. It now resides in Spain with my son who was born on this day.... I still went to the GP though

Overall.jpg

close up.jpg

rear.jpg

[Roboframer]

The thing on the back has a green bit at the bottom but neither of the things in the frame have - I'm confused!

A 'poly bag' has nothing like the properties of clear archival polyester (mylar/meiinex) and your cord, apart from being cord and not wire, is faaaaaar too tight.

Looks the dogs all the same

[CanvasChris]

Hi Robo

Thanks for the critique... I'm still learning and don't tie so tight now and allow for a degree of 'stretch' and 'angle'. Got a thing for cord ... must try wire at some point.

It was only for me so wasn't too fussed on what I used as it was just an exercise in doing something like this... haven't done one since but if I do the correct materials would be used.

The green bit is the Lucas logo on the race card... the book where all the anoraks fill in the lap times and positions.... it was 1981... the year of sh*te music & haircuts and crap graphic design.

[Jonny2morsos]

This was the race that John Watson won and in which Nigel Mansell didn't qualify! It was notable as being the first race won by a carbon fibre monocoque chassis (Mclaren MP4/1). Only eight cars completed the full race distance from 24 starters.

[CanvasChris]

I was there with the Arrows team and Riccardo Patrese was running 3rd and looked like getting on the podium but alas retired near the end. Was going to name him Riccardo but that got over ruled

[pramsay13]

Apologies for the delay.
Here's my finished effort, thanks for the replies.
Comments welcome.

[Roboframer]

A method suggested on this forum - at least once - to achieve the same (visual) result, was to staple through all but the front cover and then ATG the cover to that.

Another method; suggested on this forum and also on FATG/FATG friendly literature, which would not achieve the same visual result, was to sink mount the thing and put a window mount over - IOW turn a 3-dimensional thing in to a 2-dimensional thing. Safe, but totally bloody boring!

Safe and still 3-D - big props!

[pramsay13]

Funnily enough, the customer said I could do what I wanted with it, even taking the front page off and framing that on its own. It was purely the front page they wanted to show, and would never be taking it out again.
When I did this I had just finished framing an old album cover (LP) and it was (at the customer's request) simply a double mount over the top, so unless you knew what it was, it just looked like a photo or a print, rather than an album cover, which is a pity.
Personally I think for items such as this, the novelty is in keeping it 3D and in the end it was quite a simple process with the Jim Miller book.

[easypopsgcf]

Another method; suggested on this forum and also on FATG/FATG friendly literature, which would not achieve the same visual result, was to sink mount the thing and put a window mount over - IOW turn a 3-dimensional thing in to a 2-dimensional thing. Safe, but totally bloody boring!

I did this to mine, long before i joined this forum, and have to disagree about the boring comment, it might not be to your taste, but its easily as safe, zero tape/adhesive used, totally reversible and IMHO looks better.
As i have said before, there is no right or wrong, just good results and happy customers(although this is mine)
Well done though pramsay13

[Roboframer]

You cannot tell it's a magazine any more - it could be the front cover ripped off of one or even a copy of one.

Is that right or wrong? Well it's right, because that's what has been decided and it looks just fine. But this thread has been about showing the whole thing and that result has been achieved. IMHO, leaving no doubt that you're looking at a complete magazine is more interesting (therefore less boring) than just a flat printed thing as per ..... a print!

[easypopsgcf]

You cannot tell it's a magazine any more

But I know it's a magazine

But this thread has been about showing the whole thing

What are the options to frame it, the customer just wants the front showing?

So the thread isn't about showing the whole thing, just your take on how it should be done, which is good btw.
I'm not looking to argue with you as your posts are the ones i enjoy reading the most, but there is always an alternative method, which is all i'm trying to say.

Peace


Oh and i know i've not used the quality quote button in a while............feels good to though

[Zolf]

I agree with Robo, I would've made sure it was obvious. Even marginal 3D effects impress the pants off clients. This is where I recycle my foam board offcuts, price them as spacers and they are always happy to pay.