Glass paint

[jay]

Evening all....
Can anyone recommend a black and a gold paint for use on glass?
Also suppliers please.
Cheers
Jay

[Timh]

hi Jay

Are you going to re create the Brunswick style or verre d'eglomais? - (spelling completely wrong!)

you can use black tile paint - gloss-which seems to work but make sure the glass is very dry and very clean, no grease or finger marks
not sure about gold paint but am sure an Airfix pot for small amounts should be ok

Lion have a size for gilding onto glass and you should be able to do with dutch leaf
trial and error though
use a very good grade masking tape if you want to create lines or repositionable double sided tabe
good luck

[A3DFramer]

You can get various widths of lining tape from paint specialist, car spray suppliers etc. For straight clean lines I used to use a scalpel for scoring the paint before lifting the lining tape. I seem to remember if you use masking tape it is better to gold leaf first.

[JFeig]

I would go to a local sign writers supplier and get their enamel paint. It is made to apply to glass and porcelain.

[Timh]

That's a good point Jerome
HABBERLEY MEADOWES in Birmingham should help
not sure about cost comparison. The tin we buy is about £3.50 for 500ml and works great

[Not your average framer]

I have not done very many, as I don't find many customers for this sort of work, so I can't claim to be an expert. I use Japlac for the black, but I've never bothered with gold paint on glass as I use a distressed gold foil (from Foilco) and I stick it to the glass with well thinned down damar varnish.

You will need to practice the technique of sticking the foil to varnish, because it's not easy to get it right. When you peel away the backing foil, any missing bits can be fixed by applying more foil over the missing area.

After peeling away the backing foil, the gold is very thin and fragile, a protective coating is worth adding over the gold just in case. Also since you can see though the foil, when you hold it up to the light, it would be good if that protective coating was opaque.

Foilco have a fairly hefty minimun order value, but since I have a good stock of their foils which I bought for my handfinished course last year, this is not much of an issue for me. I also use these foils as part of various handhinishing techniques and effects (which I have developed since then) on frames and mounts.

[Not your average framer]

Don't assume that this is an easy thing to do! Getting a good even opaque coat of the black paint is quite difficult!

[jay]

Thanks for all the replies thus far.... Sorry, been on holiday (sort of) so taken a while to get back.
I have 2 "coasters" with broken glass to paint and replace.
Problem is, I will have to match as closely as poss to the originals, as there are another 4 to match.
Basically , there is a small picture in middle of a board, backed with felt. It is then covered with glass painted with a dull gold line to act as a border round pic, then a black painted surround, edges finished off with black fabric tape.... simples!
I've started to explore signwriting websites, but one says not to use gold paint as it always changes colour.... perhaps that's why these ones are so dull?!
Will have another look when back at work.....
Thanks again.
Jay

[jay]

Perhaps masking and using a roller would get a smoother finish?
I don't doubt this could be a tricky one.... Will have to do a bit of experimentation methinks!!

[Steve N]

For the black I have used car spray, once you have done the gold line and masked the area where the image shows through, a couple of light coats of spray paint will do the trick

[Steve N]

If you can get a copy of the book Modern Matting by DECOR magazine, there is a very good chapter on this subject