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dandydon07
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Baseball cap

Post by dandydon07 »

Hi all,

Looking to pick your brains......

I've framed several baseball caps in the past and although I enjoy framing them, I always find difficulty in 'packing' the cap out.

I have tried using different methods and the one I keep going back to is probabaly the simplist....I use lots of thin paper and 'scrunch' up and pack the cap using double sided tape. Its cost effective but very time consuming.

I had a think yesterday and tried contacting a foam company to see if they can make products to fit. I thought they might manage to do something like this? Im sure i've seen items similar to this in sports shops etc selling caps? Kind of like a head mannequin thing WITHOUT the bottom part of the head!! :lol: They got back to me today saying that they dont have anything like this.

Just wondered what you guys do and what you recommend?

Thanks,

Ian
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Re: Baseball cap

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There was a previous discussion about football caps, some people thought it was obvious that it was a cap and you didn't need to pack it out, the same way you don't put a body shape into a football strip.
If you do want to pack it out what about just buying one of these foam heads and trimming off anything that will be visible under the cap:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/22078113 ... 80&ff14=95
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Re: Baseball cap

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Thanks pramsay13.
Thats pretty spooky as after I posted the question I thought i'd check e-bay and came accross that same item...and thought the exact same (trimming off the bottom)

Does anyone have any use for a bottom half of a head :giggle:
Roboframer

Re: Baseball cap

Post by Roboframer »

Toy stuffing, either just stuffed in the cap or stuffed in a pocket of fabric and stitched closed first to make a 'pillow'.
We sell toy stuffing.
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Good shout Robo!!

Knew my wife would come in handy sooner or later :clap:
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Re: Baseball cap

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Your wife is very handy :giggle:
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Re: Baseball cap

Post by A3DFramer »

I used to make foam head forms, among'st other shapes to display uniforms, caps, hats, wigs. It was before the ready mixed foam came out of a can, which is used extensively in the building trade, I used closed cell foam sold for filling air spaces in fibre-glass boat hulls. Used to buy a gallon of part A and a gallon of Part B and I had enough modelling material to build a private army, if I had enough uniforms. That and my trusty 1950,s wood handle bread knife, which stayed with the poly-U kit throughout 30 years to shape the expanded material.
Nothing new about polyurethane forms they have been used as taxidermy manikins for 40 or so years, these manikins are formed on a wire structure so that the wires extrude at the ends of the legs and arms. If the same principles are use in framing 3D objects that need a void to be filled this is the lightest and strongest method that I found.

It will take you time to make a mould, but then it is only a quick job to have a shape that you will become familiar with using.

I packed many items of head gear with all forms of packing, wood straw, flock (old form of toy stuffing), newspaper and tissue paper, all have their merits in one way or the other, but if I had not experimented with expanding foam there would have been a fair number of very rewarding jobs that I would not have been able to undertake.

Taxidermy body forms are, I believe, accepted practice in museum work. I found expanded foam completely inert if mixed properly and did not have the ready-mix aerosols that seem to be useful. A few years ago my next door neighbours kicked a football over the fence, I did not find it, under a bush, till after they had left, when fitting some new window I was bequeathed a part can of expanding foam. Over 5 years later I have a perfectly formed football that has not require inflating and appears not to been degraded in any way, there are pitfalls in using foam, the user should advance carefully and learn its properties, which should be applied with thought.
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