Mounting of Linen backed 1940 Olympics poster

[Bagpuss]

Hi everyone, I've framed numerous posters over the years, some rare movie ones as well, I use Japanese hinges for these secured round the edges of Foamcore board, taped on the back. Strangely, I have never been presented with a Linen backed poster, well until last week, a customer of mine brought a rare linen backed poster of "The Olympics that never happened", the 1940 mid war one in Helsinki.

Can I have some pointers about hinging linen backed posters please ? It will have a double mount surrounding it though.
Thanks in advance,
Adam/Bagpuss

[Roboframer]

Maybe no need to use any hinges at all - how about edge mounting strips or a platform mount?

[An Old Master]

Explain 'a platform mount'?

[Roboframer]

http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 98&p=85587

http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 64&p=86741

[An Old Master]

Don't really see why that's appropriate in this case.

[Roboframer]

Well I did say "maybe" - hard to tell without actually seeing/touching it - but if it will work it's a very simple and effective method that uses no adhesive at all and if you have that option, why not

[An Old Master]

Because straightforward sticking down is far simpler and just as effective.

[stcstc]

pete, is it not better where possible to NOT stick things down. whatever they are

[An Old Master]

Absolutely, but I'm tallking in context in this instance.

[An Old Master]

Having re-thought this one, not the 'no matter what' bit.

[stcstc]

pete that fact someone has gone to the effort of linen backing the poster implies value no? and therefore sticking down is NOT the best option surely

[An Old Master]

Linen lining was fairly common practise in the days that his poster was produced, mainly on maps and charts and is not an indication of value.

[stcstc]

not for posters though, they were not designed to last long, ie few weeks not 70 years

i have to disagree, it wasnt comon to back posters, agree maps and stuff though

[An Old Master]

Disagreement is your prerogative, but not proof that what you say is correct. To clarify and be pedantic, I said that linen lining was common practise, I did not say it was common practise in posters. This was intended to show that it had been done because it was a practise that was common at that time and therefore more likely to be used as a matter of common practise.

[prospero]

You could half stick it down.

You could pre-mount drymounting film onto a board so it's stuck fast (leave paper on top side) and then put the poster on that and give it a
very quick squeeze in the press. Low pressure and low heat. Virtually shut the lid and open up as soon as the pressure is up.
This will hold it flat as much as is needed to keep it flat and in place. But the adhesive won't penetrate right into the linen so you can peel it off easily.

[Roboframer]

Bagpuss said it's 'rare' - end of story for me.

[An Old Master]

Bagpuss said it's 'rare' - end of story for me.

A 1940s piece of toilet paper would be 'rare' too.

[easypopsgcf]

If it's already stuck to linen, is it therefore not been devalued to a degree anyway?
Either way, loving this thread

[stcstc]

linen backing is a really specialist job

and no my understanding is it doesnt devalue

[prospero]

If it hadn't been stuck to linen, chances are it would not be here today. Posters aren't meant to last, cheapest paper and cheapest inks. So linen mounting, while it does 'alter' the item permanently does preserve it.

If you are talking preserving a 'rare' item, the best thing to do is pack it in acid-free tissue and put between to stout boards and put it under the bed. As soon as you decide to display it, with the best will in the world you are compromising it to some extent.