how substantial a frame for this...

[CanvasChris]

Have had a tentative enquiry to frame a matted painting at a glass size of 662mm x 1272mm.

Customer is asking for a narrow frame but my thoughts are it's going to need something a little more substantial. The glass alone is going to be heavy and even if we use a 5mm acrylic it still isn't going to be light. String isn't a factor either really so will be using strap hangers so a wide'ish moulding is really needed.

what are your thoughts????

[prospero]

Did one a while ago roughly that size. Tad longer maybe. It had 2mm glass in it. I used a moulding from Wessex which is basically a piece of 2x2 with a rebate.

It's the integrity corner joins you have to worry about. The more glue area the better. And steel L plates as backup aren't a bad idea. In this case, as I was going to paint the frame I joined it with two 3" woodscrews across the corners.

If the customer wants a thin face on the frame it's possible, but you have to use a subframe to provide the main strength. This does mean that the frame needs to be deep enough to swallow the depth of the glass/art and subframe.

[Graysalchemy]

i made a frame 3.2m x 2.6m yesterday (not glazed) it was biscuit jointed glued, metal plates on the back and screwed with a few 4" screws in the corners, filled and sanded ready for painting on site.

Personally i wouldn't bat an eye lid at something that size.

[prospero]

Have you measured the doors AG?

[Graysalchemy]

It fitted fine through the roller shutters but had to be fitted to day at the other end before the shop windows went in

[Abacus]

You could always buy in a thin profile aluminium frame

[prospero]

You could always buy in a thin profile aluminium frame

There is a Neilsen profile - ref 50 I think which I have used on big glazed stuff. Nearly approaching the size in question. It has a face about 12mm, maybe a tad less. It would work. You can always add a bracing wire to stop any bending if some numpty picks the frame up by the top rail. One thing with ally frames is the corners are not going to give way nohow.

[CanvasChris]

Thanks to all for your comments, have taken them all onboard and will advise my customer.

[Roboframer]

Big frame/narrow moulding required? Aluminium, but even then, don't choose one so narrow that it would flex if lifted from the top.

You wouldn't be able to use your strap hangers on an aluminium frame but 'Z' bars (the ones Lion sell anyway) fit perfectly in to the channel on Nielsen profiles and would be better still IMHO; your customer would have to be willing and able to position & fix them correctly on the wall though.

I lerve Z bars.

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[Steve N]

we are doing two wine maps this week 1500x580mm, using 22mm beech moulding with 2mm glass , yours should be no problem