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Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:20 am
by Trinity
Or my eyesight.
I've done a double mount 6mm showing and when put it against the wall arghh - it looked 6 at the top but less at the bottom. Turned it upside down and blow me down the thinner bit stayed at te bottom. Time for glasses.

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:32 am
by Dave
Somebody will correct me I'm sure, but I believe it's parallax. I've spent minutes chasing mounts round 90 degrees at a time convinced something was wrong.

Dave

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:49 am
by Trinity
Chopping device or an illness Dave?

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 12:09 pm
by Dave
Familiar feature to shooters, things appearing different relative to each other when viewed from different angles. Imagine looking at a row of telegraph poles whilst driving past them. They stay where they are but appear to move relative to each other as your viewing angle changes.

Dave

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 20 Mar, 2015 1:50 pm
by prospero
It's a well known illusion. All to do with how we perceive things as 'stable' and therefore safe. Ask someone to draw a triangle for you. 99.9% of the time they will do it apex-up. Apex-down is unstable and therefore gives you a subconscious feeling of instability. :?

Same reason for bottom-weighting mount borders. Do them equal and the top will always look wider. In theory we should also bottom-weight double mount reveals, but no one does. :lol:

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Sat 21 Mar, 2015 11:46 am
by kevin
Bottom should be approx; 10 per cent greater than top margin. 6mm at top, about7mm at bottom solves the illusion.

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Tue 24 Mar, 2015 10:12 am
by 233ART
The trouble is with that idea, Kevin, is that not everyone sees things in the same way...

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Tue 24 Mar, 2015 10:18 am
by prospero
A lot depends on the nature of the mount and the lighting conditions. How extreme the difference in tone/colour between top mount and bottom etc.

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Tue 24 Mar, 2015 8:35 pm
by Trinity
Spot on Prospero, it was a dark brown bottom layer and cream top, which did accentuate it.

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Fri 27 Mar, 2015 3:04 pm
by guzzijim
kevin wrote:Bottom should be approx; 10 per cent greater than top margin. 6mm at top, about7mm at bottom solves the illusion.
I've never noticed this phonominium with double mounts, having said that I never go above 4mm.

I have however encountered that 'slipped down' look with mounts/matts but have always allowed for it by making the bottom slightly wider.

Is 10% a calculated amount, perhaps devised by an ancient Greek scholar or is it a figure generally agreed by framers? or neither!

Re: Optical illusion

Posted: Sat 28 Mar, 2015 12:34 pm
by guzzijim
guzzijim wrote:[quote="kevin"

Is 10% a calculated amount, perhaps devised by an ancient Greek scholar or is it a figure generally agreed by framers? or neither!
This was a serious question.