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tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 8:57 pm

Hi All, can anyone recommend good pens to use in the penholder of my Oval6. I've tried a few different brands with varying results. Been cutting some mounts for graduation photos and puttting a gold accent line round the oval but sometimes the ink just sinks into the mount board and looks dull. Went round a couple of times, no improvement. Sometimes it's blotchy. Tried ordinary pens just to check technique and they seem fine. Tried in a v-groove and an embossed line (slightly better). Would be grateful for any recommends.
Cheers and best wishes.
Harry F.
P.S. Anybody got past level 35 on Bloxorz??

kev@frames · Post by **kev@frames** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 9:51 pm

Hi Harry - i have a wee vinyl cutter made by Roland, they use plotter pens (as well as vinyl cuutting blades). You ought to be able to get the pens from a sign supplis place in various colours.
Maybe a help?
Cheers
Kev

kev@frames · Post by **kev@frames** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 9:52 pm

ps. does Bloxorz have a flamethrower or a sniper rifle in it?

Spit · Post by **Spit** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 9:53 pm

kev@frames wrote:ps. does Bloxorz have a flamethrower or a sniper rifle in it?

No, just bricks.

Post by **John** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 9:57 pm

Level 35?

I can't get past 33

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 11:02 pm

Cheers Kev. Tried the Pilot pens from Lion but the "fine" one is too thick, blotches, and the extra fine one is too fine. Tried sharpening the fibre tip of the fine one with a scalpel but ended up chuckin' it in the bin. The pen that is.
Tried the Gel pens, hmm. Might get some Modge Podge and glitter. Seasonal at least. Level 33 was a 3.30am job John. Had a dream about a building site or somethin'. Just loads of bricks everywhere!!!
Harry F

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 11:08 pm

Re "Pens" Anyone know if Parker do a "RollerBall" in silver and gold????
Harry F

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Sun 09 Dec, 2007 11:51 pm

Sorry John, meant 33. Typo on my part. Goin' round in circles (squares?)with this one. Could be another a.m. job. Just about finished this bottle of Shiraz.
Harry F

Post by **John** » Mon 10 Dec, 2007 10:18 am

Bloxorz is a bit sneaky at level 33.

The tile that appears when the 'X' is pressed should not be used end-on on the exit run otherwise you will be unable to finish

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Mon 10 Dec, 2007 11:13 am

Aye, fell for that one about 20 times

Harry F

kev@frames · Post by **kev@frames** » Mon 10 Dec, 2007 6:38 pm

Spit wrote: No, just bricks.

its not a first person shooter then

Not your average framer · Mon 17 Dec, 2007 6:08 pm

tightmitre wrote:Hi All, can anyone recommend good pens to use in the penholder of my Oval6.

Hi Harry,

I use the pentel pens from Lion. I don't use the extra fine, as it can blob sometimes, but the fine is OK and the tip can be trimmed to shape if required using a very sharp blade. Always shake the pens first until the little ball inside can be heard hitting the ends of the pen

tightmitre wrote:sometimes the ink just sinks into the mount board and looks dull.

The results can vary with the quality of the mountboard, so use a nice dense mountboard which is not too absorbent and lift off the pen while you allow the first application to dry and seal the surface. Then go around again and you will find it's OK.

Arqadia boards are really dense and work well with these pens.

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Mon 17 Dec, 2007 6:23 pm

Cheers NYAF, will try and trim the nib again. Might have been a bit heavy handed the last time. Been thinking it might work better with an embossed line as this would compress the mount board and hold the ink better.
Thanks, Harry F.

Not your average framer · Mon 17 Dec, 2007 9:02 pm

tightmitre wrote:Been thinking it might work better with an embossed line as this would compress the mount board and hold the ink better.
Thanks, Harry F.

That what it recommends in the Oval 6 instruction, but mainly because if you use the embossing wheel with the rounded edge, then the pen will tightly follow the line.

Not your average framer · Mon 17 Dec, 2007 9:26 pm

Where I was trained they used the Fletcher Terry oval cutter and the procedure was to cut a V-groove, sharpen the pen to a point at a suitable angle and then run it around the V-groove several times. The result was always excellent.

To be honest, I don't often get asked for a gold line on an oval mount. I tend to do them most when I am doing ready made stuff, because I find it easier to sell mounts cut from darker colours of mount board if there is a gold line.

I've never found it a problem to do gold lines, but the Oval 6 "V-groove" attachment can be a PITA sometimes.

Roboframer · Post by **Roboframer** » Mon 17 Dec, 2007 10:04 pm

The problem with the pen attachment is that the nib is pushed and not pulled - the angle of the dangle is wrong and there's nothing you can do about it - the best advice is what you got on The Grumble. Using that advice you can use a ruling pen - choose your own medium and colour.

tightmitre · Post by **tightmitre** » Mon 17 Dec, 2007 10:53 pm

Thanks All.
Never usually bother with the lines either but a customer brought in the grad photos in those blue school photo type mounts. Wanted them in a different coloured mount but wanted the gold lines and the University crest cos she had paid "quite a lot" extra to have it done. Anything to keep them happy. They've turned out fine though and Mrs F wants the eldests one redone. Being a one man band and having nobody to bounce ideas off, this Forum has given me some great advice.
Thanks again. Harry F.

Not your average framer · Tue 18 Dec, 2007 8:14 am

tightmitre wrote:this Forum has given me some great advice.

I think we can all say that! Those who sound like experts are often yesterdays rookies. It's a great way of accelerating our skills and knowledge development.

Framers who aren't forum members can be at a genuine disadvanatage.

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