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Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 1:09 pm
by Ed209
Can anyone recommend a company that supplies vertical racking for mouldings please? I have found a few but it seems rather expensive I have just emailed over some pics to local metal fabricators see what prices they come back with.

Is this the best way to go if you have the height or is horizontal better?

Thanks Paul

Also after a trolley to store large rolls of laminate film etc. vertically seen one on lion but again expensive.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 1:33 pm
by prospero
It's not rocket science to knock something up with some bits of wood and some shelf brackets. :lol:

As for the orientation, vertical is probably the best way if you have the ceiling height. As for the warp factor of the moulding,
my exp is that if it's going to warp it will do whichever way it's stored.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 1:42 pm
by Ed209
Yes have in the past used timber to make racking the beauty of metal is its strength relative to it dimension compared to timber and space saving , also need to factor in my time for planning, sourcing the timber and construction.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 2:37 pm
by poliopete
Paul, I have recently made my own vertical racking. It is extremely stable and strong and used a minimum of timber and it did not take very long to construct. I have utilized the highest wall in my conservatory. :D

As soon as one of my IT savvy daughters comes round with their phone/cameras I will email you some pics. The thing is my £10 mobile from Sainsbury's does not take photos :giggle:

Peter.

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Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 4:57 pm
by Steve N
Again you're not building something for NASA (not Rocket Science :giggle: )
two or 3 horizontal 4x2 bitterns screwed to the wall, drill and glue in wooden dowels, that's how I did all mine, still standing after 11 years and holding up the moulding. have one lot along the wall where I cut and join, soon as the frame is joined it's popped up on the rack waiting for assembling along with the rest, as I cut and join all the frames at the start of the week, don't mess around with doing one order from start to finish ............

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 5:42 pm
by Ed209
Unfortunately I over think and over build, then think more and modify what I just built So my wife in her knowledge of this told me just to buy some ready made I was looking at something like in the attached, think its quite sexy. (told you there something wrong with me :D )

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 7:48 pm
by cleaver
Paul, Pete Bingham's book shows a DIY system (sounds along the lines of what the boys on here have suggested).

Unfortunately, I've only got about 8 feet of ceiling height, so will put up London brackets and store it horizontally along the long wall, Anyone got advice on how near I should space the brackets (to stop moulding dipping/bowing) please?

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 9:23 pm
by Not your average framer
Check out these three pictures of moulding racks that I made when I first had my previous shop. I took the pictures, but they were posted by John (the forum administrator). viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1631&hilit=moulding+racks&start=20

BTW, these racks were made from wood cut to size using the Morso.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 9:55 pm
by Ed209
I already tried the raised Morso and cat litter tray unfortunately I had to lower it down again (only got short legs, nearly dislocated my hips)


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Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 10:42 pm
by poliopete
Very good use of space over doors and windows Mark. Thanks for posting the pics. :D

I made my vertical racking the same way as Steve N. Maybe the only difference is I assembled mine on my workbench first and then screwed horizontally to the wall.

Cleaver, if your ceiling height is 8' - by the time you have taken a few inches of a length and made a display chevron, or to determine how it cuts and joins, the length should fit :giggle: simples.

Peter.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Mon 18 Mar, 2019 11:23 pm
by Justintime
For my horizontal storage above my sliding doors I used these with 30cms of old copper pipe over the end and pipe insulation foam over the copper. They can take around 40kgs.
I have 4 or 5 of these fixings spaced over 3 metres.
Lions do a system and mention recommended distances between supports, very helpful.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 1:32 pm
by Steve N
That photo of the blue racking looks like it has a pretty big footprint, taking up a lot of floor space space :sweating:

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 2:10 pm
by Not your average framer
Good point! I was thinking almost on similar lines, but I now have vertical racks with smaller compartments, so I can locate the right moulding more quickly and when I am about to place a moulding order, it does not take long to see what else is worth adding to the order.

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 2:44 pm
by Steve N
Mine vertical as well, as I said in my first post in this thread, ok if you have the ceiling hight
I also have two horizontal shelves for thin moulding and slips, spacers and fillets

But my stock is totally out of control, have too much, keep ordering because I can't find it, then 5 minuets before the delivery arrive, I find it :head: :head: :swear:

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 2:55 pm
by Abacus
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Here’s some of mine. 3”x2” fixed to the wall. Drilled then dowels glued in. Been up over 30 years. The mouldings sit on pigeon holes for short offcuts. Longer offcuts go in the tubes. (Note to self: tidy up!)

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 3:23 pm
by poliopete
I am certain you posted this some time ago :? am I correct?

I used sliced up broom handles for my racking instead of dowel. :giggle:

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2019 4:40 pm
by Steve N
I thought that was mine Abacus but it can't be, so much neater than mine :sweating: :giggle:

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2019 11:01 am
by cleaver
Mark, thanks for that thread link - great stuff on there.

I'll be a happy boy if my frames look half as tidy as your shelf supports :D

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2019 4:08 pm
by GeoSpectrum
I bought some from BIG DOUG. Quite expensive but solid. Fortunately most of the
Moulding I get from Rose & Hollis is 2.5m or so, so they fit, aything longer
Goes out in the storage building in horizontal racks. Horizontal or vertical, I still ‘loose’ moulding
from time to time. :roll:

Re: Vertical racking

Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2019 4:47 pm
by Not your average framer
Hi Alan,

That's really interesting advice. "Big Doug" send me their catalogues from time to time, I'm yet to order from them, but they supply workshop benches and it occurs to me that two of these benches joined end to end could be arranged to include moulding storage underneath the bench top. You can get similar benches from Machine Mart and many more similar suppliers. Most of these benches can be fitted with exrtra shelves if required.