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Excellent pedigree - the guy's got good taste.

And here's another one . .

This is from Orde02, a forum member -

He makes and sells these to artists and photographers.
All he's got is a Morso, a band saw and an account with R&H.

vintage frames wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar, 2022 3:52 pm Excellent pedigree - the guy's got good taste.

Well of course he has - he's married to me!!

Really enjoying the conversations and pictures on this topic. Although I’m only new to framing these stacked ones have always caught my eye. I’ve not had much time in the workshop over the past few weeks but I promise I’ll be in there over the next few weeks and will display my efforts. Thanks everyone

Hi Freemo

If you get a chance to pop down to Stratford upon Avon on 14th May there will be lots of people to chat framing with and you'll pick up lots of hits and tips.

https://www.fineart.co.uk/guild-weekend-2022.aspx

It's open to everyone and free to attend!

Thanks Tudor Framing, I’ll make every effort to get down there as I’m in need of lots of tips and advice. Hope to catch up with everyone there

vintage frames wrote: ↑Wed 23 Mar, 2022 4:19 pm And here's another one . .

This is from Orde02, a forum member -


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He makes and sells these to artists and photographers.
All he's got is a Morso, a band saw and an account with R&H.

I wouldn’t even know where to start on this, looks amazing

Most of us started, not know very much and many of us just do a bit of experimenting and gradually found it what we were able to do. In case anyone one is wondering, I've created my full share of experiments, which did not turn out as I had hoped. I have not been afraid of making mistakes and after quite a long time, I have found out what works and what does not.

I make quite a lot of handfinished frames, with little more that a quick and easy washed finish, which is super quick and easy to do and it dries very quickly with a hot air gun and fortunately washes frames happen to look surprisingly good for not a lot of effort. I also like thinned down Craig and Rose chalky emulsion as well.

Thanks for the shout out, Dermot.

Here's a heavily modified R+H A644 with some other bits and pieces added.


Matt

Love those black scoops, Tudor Rose!

Think I need a step by step guide into how these pieces are made. Is there a video or any books that would be of any help. Or if anyone is about to start making one could you send me and pics from start to finish of the stages you went through
Thanks

Hi Freemo,

Not everyone of us has a market where we can easily sell frames like this and even if we did there is quite a difficult learning curve before it is possible to approach manking items like this. Another thing is the having the right tools to undertake work like this and practicing with these tools to become adequately proficient with those tools to produce such stunning results. Unfortunately this also means wasting materials while practicing in order to achieve such proficiency with these tools and materials. All of this only gets you so far and then comes the learning to work with gesso and then the fnal hand finishing aspect, which is yet another long learning curve all of it's own. I'm not being funny about this, when I tell you that very few of us will ever manage to achieve such a high standard of craftsmandship while producing such difficult frames.

There is a particular look and feel, which you need to get to known in order to produce frames to this standard, just looking at some nice photos, is not the same as seeing the real thing. There is a lot to know like how frames which are handfinished like this will catch the light, from different angles. Don't be fooled about this, people like me can by other methods produce reasonable acceptable results using other techniques and materials, buy we can't fake the very best craftsmanship and materials. The best always stands out as the best and if you want to be producing the best, there is no way to be cutting corners to get there. There is a lot of sanding gesso to get really perfect corners and joining those corner in such a way to prevent any movement in those corner joints over time. It's a lot to think about and be able to do to a perfect standard in every respect!

Hi Freemo,

Have you seen items like these before? They are rifler wood rasps and at one time I found them very useful. Up until about 5 years ago, I used to get regularly asked to repair danaged older ornate, or swept frames. I don't get asked to do this very much at all now. The following are images of some of these.

https://www.newtonwoodcraft.com/uploads ... w2560.jpeg

https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/pro ... rs-01d.jpg

I used these for tidying up repairs and shapng wood, wood pasta ornametations, or areas which have been repaired with two part wood filler. While the wood filler has only set hard for a little while, the is a stage where it has hardened enough to easily shape the filler using these without the wood filler having hardened too much and therefore requiring extra effort.

Beautiful frames Matt

Thanks again Mark. Perfecting those corners is an are itself. I’ll get myself practicing on this aspect and then expand a bit more until I’ve almost perfected it. I’ll try and get in touch with some local framers and see if I can spend any time with them

you can also "stack" multiple mouldings to create extra depth for item framing, this was 3 mouldings stacked to make a 5" rebate depth, because a large box stuck out the back of the frame would look unsightly, plus the fact I was getting board of paperwork and wanted to do something creative for once, as I do not do much framing anymore

That looks really nice and a great job too! I bet that the customer will be well pleased as well! A first class job I reckon.

That’s amazing.

Here's one I did a few years back.