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Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 3:57 pm
by Gemmie123
Hi
I have a frame that I wanted to just lime and wax but I needed to clamp the corners so now I have the small holes - I know I can just fill these with wood filler ( osmo ) but then the lime looks odd on those sections , is there anything better to plug the holes with then lime ?
Thanks in advance

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 5:04 pm
by JFeig
I had to look into what Osmo wood filler was on line. It is a water based filler and the manufacturer does not have a MDS sheet for the product on-line.

What size nails are you using? Are you attempting to lime finish the frame before or after the wood filler is used? Can you post a photo of what your outcome is, both closeup and of the entire frame.

When I started in the business many years ago, before "V" nailers, using a hole filler was SOP. What is a distraction to one person is not the same to all others. The product does come in assorted stock colors. You would be able to blend several colors together for color matching and layering of the fillers to match.

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 5:49 pm
by Gemmie123
Thanks for the response
It had been glued and joined with v nails .The holes are just from the clamps
I would be liming it after it was filled - otherwise the filled holes would be really noticeable 🤷‍♀️
I can match wood filler to the wood that’s not the problem - I’m looking for a solution to the liming wax not making the filled holes even more noticeable as it doesn’t adhere to those bits as it does to the rest of the wood .
Thanks

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 5:54 pm
by JKX
Not a solution this time but for future ref. Prevention being better than cure, get a band clamp!

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 7:14 pm
by vintage frames
Once the wood filler has dried, try adding a little shellac over the filler. Use a cloth to just rub some on.
The liming wax should go on to that the same as the timber.

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 7:35 pm
by Gemmie123
Thanks yeah I have a band clamp - but wasn’t suitable for the frame .

Perfect !! I will give the shellac a go thanks very much :-)

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Sun 11 Feb, 2024 7:41 pm
by Gemmie123
https://www.jacksonsart.com/robersons-2 ... 4IQAvD_BwE
This one suitable ? I have some of this already

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Mon 12 Feb, 2024 10:14 am
by vintage frames
Yep, that's the stuff.
You could paint it on with a paintbrush. Diluting 50/50 with meths always gives best results.
But then you have to go to the bother of cleaning out the paintbrush.

For this I would fold a bit of cotton into a small pad, tip on some shellac from the bottle and smear it over the patches of wood filler.

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Mon 12 Feb, 2024 10:27 am
by prospero
Try Brummer Stopping. :D I find it blends into the natural wood very well.
Antique Pine matches most pale woods.

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Mon 12 Feb, 2024 12:57 pm
by JFeig
What type of wood is your moulding made from? Again a photo would be helpful.

If you are having an indentation from the horizontal supports of a "V" nailer(the back rests) you probably are applying too much pressure from the piston that applies the pressure that compresses the two rails together. It does not take as much pressure as the downward pressure needed to insert the "V" nails.

If the indents are from the top, not knowing the actual brand nor condition of your machine the cause can be one of two reasons. The first is that there is not enough surface area, or a proper cushion for the "hold down". Or you air pressure is too high. The appropriate pressure for most machines is 90-100 psi (~ 6 atm).

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Mon 12 Feb, 2024 4:01 pm
by JKX
I think the holes are from this type of clamp

Re: Best product or method to fill holes on bare frame ?

Posted: Wed 14 Feb, 2024 12:47 pm
by Gemmie123
Yes that’s the type 👍🏻 Collins / spring clamps

I have no indents from underpinner thanks