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I've got a framing job coming up where I need to make several frames where the contents can be removed and replaced.

I intend to make platform mounts inside, then backing boards held in place with turn buttons.

However, I don't want to use wire or cord on them, because it'll get in the way of removing the backs.

I was thinking of using angled sawtooth hangers from lion, but they still protrude a bit onto the backing, which could interfere with easy removal of the backing board.

I've heard 'beehive' hangers being used, but I'd need to import them and could be a bit expensive...

Does anyone know of any uk wholesalers for beehive hangers, or something similar?

Thanks!!

What about a Lions 6161A sawtooth hanger?

You could go for a 'key-hole' hanger.
Have a look at them on Amazon or other.

You would need to make a slot into the frame back with a suitable sized drill bit and wood chisel, then screw the hanger plate over it.

D-Rings with bifurcated rivets into the back board?

You can still use cord or wire, just use two pieces tied together with a reef knot. Or one piece doubled and tied with a reef knot.

If that’s knot favourable then as long as your frame is wide enough, Z bars or cleats are good.

JKX wrote: Wed 27 Nov, 2024 3:48 pm You can still use cord or wire, just use two pieces tied together with a reef knot. Or one piece doubled and tied with a reef knot.

If that’s knot favourable then as long as your frame is wide enough, Z bars or cleats are good.

'Knot' favourable! Hahahahah!!!

I think I'd prefer cleats if I can't find anything else... just to keep it simple for them. I think they'd want to play with the order and position of the artworks on their walls, so cleats might be a little too involved for them with 18 pictures to play with.

Justintime wrote: Wed 27 Nov, 2024 2:31 pm What about a Lions 6161A sawtooth hanger?

Maybe if I used two per picture, for stability. Thanks, I'll think on that one.

vintage frames wrote: Wed 27 Nov, 2024 2:40 pm You could go for a 'key-hole' hanger.
Have a look at them on Amazon or other.

You would need to make a slot into the frame back with a suitable sized drill bit and wood chisel, then screw the hanger plate over it.

Thanks, I'll look into that, there's a few of them. If I could get a plunge router or similar, it could be an option.

I just realised I never gave an update here.

I appreciate all of your suggestions, thank you!

I ended up using American style d-rings and soft steel wire. I made the wire a bit longer than I would normally, which meant that the d-ring could be flipped out of the way to remove the backing and platform mount from the frame.

If I do something similar again I'll try two of the heavier duty sawtooth hangers at the top corners of the frame. Unless I can source wall buddies at a reasonable price in the UK! This way, the wire won't get in the way.

Fyi Lions do a similar thing to wall buddies, search for CWH5.

Thanks!

Yes, I got some of them not long after I did the job. They were out of stock at the time.

I'll give them a shot, but I think they're flush to the frame.

One of the reasons Jim Miller recommends the wall buddy system, I think, is because they can be use on the top corners of the frame. So there would be a gap between the frame and the tooth to accommodate a nail head. This way they don't need to be over the rebate at the back of the frame, which again would interfere with changing the art.