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Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 28 May, 2025 4:35 pm
by Jarvman1986
Hi all,

looking for help framing something that is a bit battered.

My cousin gave me some Yamaha motorbike assembly instructions that are quite crumbled and missing a corner.

I have gone for an overmount but was wondering if there is a better way.

Cheers,
Gareth
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Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 28 May, 2025 7:55 pm
by Justintime
I'd hedgehog it.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 28 May, 2025 8:21 pm
by pramsay13
Float mount it on a bright and colourful mount to show off the imperfections.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 28 May, 2025 8:25 pm
by Jarvman1986
pramsay13 wrote: Wed 28 May, 2025 8:21 pm Float mount it on a bright and colourful mount to show off the imperfections.
Thanks. Do you mean space it away from the backing board with foamcore? What colour might you use?

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 29 May, 2025 8:51 am
by JKX
To float mount something means to show the whole thing, raised above the mounting surface or not.

I’d mount it to navy blue mount board, and put much more space around it than you’re showing.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 29 May, 2025 8:58 am
by Jarvman1986
Thanks. How much space would you leave around the print?

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 29 May, 2025 9:00 am
by Justintime
Assuming that your cousin used to have one and that the finished piece is for them, I'd ask what colour theirs was.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 29 May, 2025 10:19 am
by prospero
I would hinge it on a mountboard that is a similar shade to the paper so the hole doesn't
'shout' so much. I did a similar thing with a watercolour of a Nun that had woodworm holes.
I spotted the mounting board with matching watercolour dabs behind the hole area.
It worked quite well. :D

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 29 May, 2025 4:25 pm
by JKX
Jarvman1986 wrote: Thu 29 May, 2025 8:58 am Thanks. How much space would you leave around the print?

At least 75mm


I’d also bottom weight it to compensate for the wider top border.

Colour is personal choice of course, but I’d ensure that choice is an informed one by showing options
I think contrast is good and a dark mounting surface will show the wear and tear nicely - if it’s an issue a perfect digitally repaired copy could be produced!

If it is to be a neutral colour, then I would suggest raising it from the mounting surface to create contrast with shadows.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Fri 30 May, 2025 8:45 am
by NTG999
My first suggestion would be surface mount using hedgehog method on something like Wessex WCM666 dark blue mountboard, I like showing the edges - its part of the story

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Sat 31 May, 2025 4:16 pm
by pramsay13
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Here's an extreme example of a float mount used to show off the edges of the child's artwork.

I did another one that has frayed edges and even a hole in the middle but used a bright turquoise mount to highlight the imperfections.

For this one I would do the same but with a coloured mountboard, maybe blue to match the ink.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 11:38 am
by Jarvman1986
Thanks for the input folks.

I have the two other prints he would like framed in hand now.

Could I get some advice on how to frame these? He said the three needn't be uniform.

Cheers!

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 12:03 pm
by Justintime
What sort of advice are you looking for? Design, technical? What are the pieces?

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 12:43 pm
by Jarvman1986
Here are the other two. Design advice mostly

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 1:25 pm
by Justintime
Loads of options, a consultation with your cousin would give you an idea of how special these pieces are. If they are easily replaceable and for an office or teenagers wall I might suggest simply mounting and laminating onto board and close framed. Less cost, wipeable, no glass to break.
If they're treasures and not easily replaceable and they're looking for a top job, to elevate them and make them into real wow pieces, then I'd be thinking a double or triple mount, the middle mount being a slither of colour with a total border of at least 70-90mm depending on the design of the multi mounts with one of those LJ matt black mouldings I mentioned before from the 345082 type or something with a bit of shine like LJ 374650 or even the LJ Komodo black, depending on the finish of the posters.
Mounts-wise, the first poster colours are yellow red blue gold grey and black. I'd stay away from red because its a focal point, but you can play with all the other shades as the bottom mount of a double mount or the middle of a triple mount. The coloured mount only needs to be 4mm to give a slip of colour. It doesn't have to be a colour match but it needs to be in the same tonal range of the colour in the poster, like in a paint colour chart.
The second one is a bit trickier because the colours and tones look very muted. But consider all your options, including black core mounts. Crescent "better" mount range have a set of black mounts with coloured bevels, one of which may add a little zing if the tone is right. If you're looking at greys Crescent "Rag Mat" range have some nice grey mounts and because they're cotton you get the colour throughout the whole board which adds some really nice depth. If you're considering a triple mount, then play around with alternating a 2.4mm mount and 1.4mm mount between top and bottom and experiment with the widths of the top and bottom mounts. All the options create a slightly different effect. I'd stick with a neutral LJ Minuet mount for top and bottom.
Next level would be to have a look at the mount work of David Wilkie who does a lot of work for Brands Hatch/Silverstone displays and he uses his CMC to do cut out logos etc incorporated into his mount designs, it's really next level! But don't discount it if you haven't got a CMC, someone somewhere would be able to help you achieve the design you have in mind. Personally the design can be the most exciting part of a framing job when the customer's budget allows. Going above and beyond the customer's expectations is what it's all about in my book.
Hope that helps.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 1:44 pm
by Jarvman1986
Justintime wrote: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 1:25 pm Loads of options, a consultation with your cousin would give you an idea of how special these pieces are. If they are easily replaceable and for an office or teenagers wall I might suggest simply mounting and laminating onto board and close framed. Less cost, wipeable, no glass to break.
If they're treasures and not easily replaceable and they're looking for a top job, to elevate them and make them into real wow pieces, then I'd be thinking a double or triple mount, the middle mount being a slither of colour with a total border of at least 70-90mm depending on the design of the multi mounts with one of those LJ matt black mouldings I mentioned before from the 345082 type or something with a bit of shine like LJ 374650 or even the LJ Komodo black, depending on the finish of the posters.
Mounts-wise, the first poster colours are yellow red blue gold grey and black. I'd stay away from red because its a focal point, but you can play with all the other shades as the bottom mount of a double mount or the middle of a triple mount. The coloured mount only needs to be 4mm to give a slip of colour. It doesn't have to be a colour match but it needs to be in the same tonal range of the colour in the poster, like in a paint colour chart.
The second one is a bit trickier because the colours and tones look very muted. But consider all your options, including black core mounts. Crescent "better" mount range have a set of black mounts with coloured bevels, one of which may add a little zing if the tone is right. If you're looking at greys Crescent "Rag Mat" range have some nice grey mounts and because they're cotton you get the colour throughout the whole board which adds some really nice depth. If you're considering a triple mount, then play around with alternating a 2.4mm mount and 1.4mm mount between top and bottom and experiment with the widths of the top and bottom mounts. All the options create a slightly different effect. I'd stick with a neutral LJ Minuet mount for top and bottom.
Next level would be to have a look at the mount work of David Wilkie who does a lot of work for Brands Hatch/Silverstone displays and he uses his CMC to do cut out logos etc incorporated into his mount designs, it's really next level! But don't discount it if you haven't got a CMC, someone somewhere would be able to help you achieve the design you have in mind. Personally the design can be the most exciting part of a framing job when the customer's budget allows. Going above and beyond the customer's expectations is what it's all about in my book.
Hope that helps.
Really appreciate your thoughts and taking the time to write this!

I'll try to digest this fully and look at what options are available from Wessex framing.

Would you use a specialist glass? They are being displayed indoors so shouldn't be subjected to daylight.

Cheers!

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 1:48 pm
by Jarvman1986
Jarvman1986 wrote: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 1:44 pm Really appreciate your thoughts and taking the time to write this!

For the first print would you use a slip of colour for the second mount and a dark coloured mount for the one above it?

I'll try to digest this fully and look at what options are available from Wessex framing.

Would you use a specialist glass? They are being displayed indoors so shouldn't be subjected to daylight.

Cheers!

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Wed 04 Jun, 2025 2:37 pm
by Justintime
Wessex stock or can order in all of the mount options I mentioned.
Again the consultation process is your chance to offer the various glazing options. AR70 is my best seller, way more than standard float glass now, because I offer it as the base option and because customers immediately see the benefit of anti-reflection, "is there any glass in that".
Everything is subjected to daylight unless it's in a blacked out room. Halogen bulbs can also be an issue, LED's seem to be fine in comparison. I've had a laminated art poster come back in for replacement after five years of halogen bulb lighting and some daylight.

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 05 Jun, 2025 11:50 am
by Jarvman1986
Thanks again for the advice again.

Do you think the same blue would be a good choice for a double mount on the first and second posters?

My cousin isn't sold on the idea of art glass. Is there a protective glass you use that is cheaper/not anti-reflective?

Cheers

Re: Framing battered motorcycle print

Posted: Thu 05 Jun, 2025 12:52 pm
by Justintime
All of the shades of the blue in the images are from the same tonal range. I think you need to go through your mount samples and pull out anything that sits well tonally with the blue and see for yourself what works. As a designer only you can make the choices.
Yes, the protective glass I use that is cheaper and not anti reflective is 2mm float glass. But if he does want 99%UV protection without the anti reflective properties you could offer him Truvue Conservation Clear or Artglass 99. In my pricing that comes out between AR70 and float glass.