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Float mounting large artwork

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Dear all,

A customer has brought in a triptych of artwork that he wants float mounted. Each painting is just over 3x2 feet, on handmade paper, which seems quite strong but is rather floppy. I was proposing to somehow mount it to a piece of 3.2mm mount board slightly smaller than the artwork. However, its the 'somehow mount' bit that I'm very stuck on (excuse the pun). One suggestion I've had is to use 85:15 PVA glue:water on the mount board, let it dry, then heat activate in my ademco press. However, a practice run through using scrap card and paper has showed that I am incapable of reactivating the glue so that it actually sticks. (I've also tried neat PVA, and diff temps). :head:

I'm reluctant to use wet glue, as I'm worried this will a) seep through the fibres, and b) might alter the chemical nature of the hand made paper. I don't really want to dry mount it, as its original artwork.

Any thoughts please?! Thank you.

Clare.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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Hello again,
I've been doing lots of internet searches today, and think I may have found a possible solution to my mounting issues: perhaps the use of "Mylar" or "melinex", which appears to be a clear film of archival standard, that can be used to encapsulate artwork. Has anyone had any experience of using this stuff? Is it truly invisible (ie a matt finish)? Is there a UK distributor? (I have so far only uncovered suppliers in America). Do you think this is a sensible option? Can it be used for large artwork? So many questions!

Clare.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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A similar question came up recently - see J Feig's reply

Regards Melinex - No it's not invisible, yes there is a UK distributor. No, it's not really suitable for something of this nature/size.
artfulfox wrote: One suggestion I've had is to use 85:15 PVA glue:water on the mount board, let it dry, then heat activate in my ademco press......................... I don't really want to dry mount it, as its original artwork.
What you describe IS drymounting!
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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Is this a job for Artcare Restore, as artfulfox has a heatpress?
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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It would certainly do the job, only difference with it and other methods is its reversibility. But you can still do un-reversible things with it that you can do with any drymounting process, like heat damage and creases.

I'd not use any dry mounting process for anything irreplaceable - pass-through hinges are not difficult - you may not end up with a perfectly flat piece of paper; then again you may, but it will at least be just as flat as it was when you received it, or can make it by storing under weights until time to frame.
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I'd add (nice if I could still edit after such a short time mind, but hey ho) that drymounting to a board smaller than the paper could cause problems - edges folding over?

I'd also add that if you have to experiment - it's a very deep breath you have to take when it comes to the final take.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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[quote="Roboframer"]A similar question came up recently - see J Feig's reply

Feel a little foolish for missing that.

Thanks Roboframer and Spit for your advice, I appreciate it very much. Since the artwork is not replacable, I would like to investigate the use of the "pass through hinges", that Roboframer suggested. Would you mind, Roboframer, if I PM'd you to get more information on this, as I'm not familiar with this technique? And I think you're right - the edges would get folded over a board smaller than the artwork.

I have looked up Artcare restore, and will certianly use this in the future for framing posters and other less valuable prints, so thank you Spit for the information on this product.

Large breaths will be certainly be taken for this little project!

Clare.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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aha! Found this: http://www.pictureframingmagazine.com/p ... LOATED.pdf

I'll use these hinges along the top of the artwork. However, please would you just give me a little more help regarding how to stop the rest of the picture from flopping about.. bearing in mind its 3ftx2ft. Would 3 or 4 similar hinges along the sides be sensible? And would you put anything in the middle? I'm thinking about when I have the picture facing down to put on the tabs, backing tape etc, that the picture will flop foward onto the glass, putting stress on any hinges i have on the sides, and potentially putting dust on the inside of the glass.

Thanks again!

Clare.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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Bags of info here http://www.thegrumble.com/search.php?searchid=358088

Some diagrams here - http://www.frametek.com/HTML/Articles/Hinging2.html - plus more on the subject on that site.
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Roboframer wrote:Bags of info here http://www.thegrumble.com/search.php?searchid=358088
This link does not work for me now - it did just after posting - sorry if it does not work for everyone else too - seem to remember having problems with links to Grumble searches before.

Abyway - go to TFG go to 'search' then go to 'advanced search' and search in 'titles only' for 'float' in 'the grumble' in the relevant lists/drop downs.

You'll get two pages of threads, with quite a few relevant - and most others very interesting anyway.
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Re: Float mounting large artwork

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
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