Canvas Mount

[Johnny9]

Guys,

A customer came in and said do canvas mounts????

Have any of you done or seen a canvas or canvas like mounts??

It looks like canvas on mount board, the customer has 2 pictures already like this, he said they were from the USA,
but now wants 3 others the same.....

I don't have any pictures to show at the mo, but will once i have......

Cheers
Johnny.

[prospero]

This technique is very tricky. It's more often done with photos where the image is first heatsealed with a thin film and then the paper has to be stripped off leaving just the photographic inks stuck to the film. This is is then bonded to canvas using white drimount film (not tissue). This way, the image moulds itself into the canvas weave. It's something that requires practice. I tried it once without great sucess.
With today's technology, this method is mostly obselete. It's easier to have the photo printed onto canvas in the first place.
If it is art prints that he wants mounted, it is one job you definately want to farm out to someone who does them all the time and has got the knack.

edit.

Sorry, I have just woken up and only on my second coffee.

You want canvas covered mountboard? Right. Gotcha.

Thinking about it, no-one seems to do it anymore. There will probably be some in US ranges but I can't think of any UK stockist off the top of my head. I might have a few bits somewhere.... You might have to resort to wrapping your own if you can get the right coloured canvas. Actually, this gives a better result as you can wrap the bevels.

[Dermot]

fabric covered mats/mounts http://www.pmai.org/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=10774 from the PPFA

http://www.pictureframingmagazine.com/p ... GMOUNT.pdf from PFM

Sorry I was think Mount as in Mat in the US

[Dermot]

See page 10 of this Hotpress hint sheet http://www.hotpress.co.uk/Hints.pdf

[Johnny9]

Prospero & Dermot,

Thanks for the super fast response...

I was thinking this was going to be complex, and it looks like it is!!!!!!

Thanks again for you help, think I may pass on this one!!!!!!

Johnny.

[Dermot]

Here is another good link for fabric wraped mats..... http://www.falconeast.com/howto.html

[Jonny2morsos]

Slater & Harrison do a linen mountboard in their Colourmount range in 4 colours. I am sure they or your supplier would send you some samples if you asked.

I think we have a few odd pieces lying around that came with some plan chests we bought from a retiring framer. Always meant to find a job to do with it and put up on the wall but never got around to it.

If you can't get a sample get in touch and I'll post a bit off to you.

John.

[Moglet]

Slater Harrison do a linen mountboard in their Colourmount range in 4 colours...

Looks really good on the right job, but...

1. It's only a standard core board.

2. It's a b*gger to align completely square, and the bevelled edge can fray.

3. It's possible to separate the linen from the dropout of the mount aperture (one needs to reduce the mountcutter blade depth to cut through the core, but not through the linen covering), and then wrap the excess fabric round the bevels. Possible, but an enormous PITA. (Trust me on this one. )

[Not your average framer]

Hi Johnny,

I see that you are in Manchester. Well, there's a company in Manchester called "Red Bridge" and they make textiles used for bookbinding. There is a type of canvas which is sometimes used for bookbinding called "Crash canvas". It's one of the most durable materials used to cover hand cover books.

Unlike ordinary canvas, it is heavily starch sized. This means that if you dry mount it on to mount board which has been coated with acrylic gel, then the starch size will help prevent any of the acrylic gel showing through the front of the canvas. I probably won't stop the gel from showing through the front if you use too much gel.

The acrylic gel is available from Lion, it's the stuff for putting brush stroke effects on top of prints. Lion have three such products in their catalogue. I can't remember which one I've got, but I asked Lion which one they sold the most of and bought that one. The gel is best applied with a small smooth paint roller and should be left to fully dry before use.

I don't know if "Red Bridge" supply by the metre as well as by the roll, but two other possibilities are J. Hewit & sons in Edinbough and Russell bookcraft in Thockington (Bedfordshire), who both supply smaller quanities. I think from memory only one of the other two stocks crash canvas, but can't remember which one it is. (A long time ago, I was a bookbinder).

The normal trick is to use the cut out from the mount to force the fabric into position onto the bevels. Crash canvas does not give very much, so you will need to do two diagonal cuts forming an "X" in the area of the aperature the cuts should stop about 3mm from each corner. This will work with a screw down type drymounting press as I've done it, but I don't know about a vacuum press as I don't have one.

There's a very limited range of colours in crash canvas, which includes most, if not all, of those available on the Colourmont canvas mountboards. However the colour may be changed with a suitable application of thinned down acrylic paint after the job has been done.

[Moglet]

The normal trick is to use the cut out from the mount to force the fabric into position onto the bevels.... This will work with a screw down type drymounting press as I've done it, but I don't know about a vacuum press

One can use a vacuum press for this work.

[Johnny9]

Guys,

Once again many thanks for all you help, really appreciate it....

I'll have a look into all your examples & let you know what I decided to do.....

Johnny