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Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 3:48 pm
by gesso
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:music: "In their stye with all their packing, they don't care what goes on around".
"In their eye's there's something lacking, what they needs a damn good whacking" :music:
(words and music by G Harrison)


Douglas Alexander spent more than £30,000 doing up his constituency home – which then suffered damage in a house fire.

Michael Ancram put the cost of having his swimming pool boiler serviced on his parliamentary allowances. He has agreed to repay the money

James Arbuthnot claimed from the public finances for cleaning his swimming pool at a country residence. He has agreed to repay the money

Vera Baird claimed the cost of Christmas tree decorations

Norman Baker asked if he could claim for a bicycle and a computer so he could listen to music and email family and friends

Greg Barker made a £320,000 profit selling a flat the taxpayer had helped pay for

Margaret Beckett made a£600 claim for hanging baskets and pot plants

Tony Blair re-mortgaged his constituency home and claimed almost a third of the interest around the time he was buying another property in London

Hazel Blears did not pay capital gains tax on a property she sold despite having told the Commons authorities it was her second home. She has since agreed to paid the tax but denied any wrongdoing.

Ben Bradshaw used his allowance to pay the mortgage interest on a flat he owned jointly with his boyfriend

Kevin Brennan had a £450 television delivered to his family home in Cardiff even though he reclaimed the money back on his London second home allowance

Gordon Brown's house swap let the PM claim thousands

Andy Burnham had an eight-month battle with the fees office after making a single expenses claim for more than £16,500

Stephen Byers claimed more than £125,000 for repairs and maintenance at a London flat owned outright by his partner, where he lives rent-free

Vince Cable forgoes the second home allowance, but asked whether he could claim backdated payments of the London supplement instead

David Cameron limited his claims to mortgage interest payments and utility bills. He will repay the only maintenance bill he claimed - £600 for the removal of wisteria

Menzies Campbell hired a top interior designer to refurbish his small flat in central London at taxpayers’ expense

Kenneth Clarke managed to avoid paying the full rate of council tax on either of his two homes by effectively claiming that neither is his main residence. He has agreed to pay the full rate in future but defended his past behaviour.

Nick Clegg claimed the maximum allowed under his parliamentary second home allowance

Alistair Darling's stamp duty was paid by the public

David Davis spent more than £10,000 of taxpayers’ money on home improvements in four years, including a new £5,700 portico at his home in Yorkshire.

Pat Doherty, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, Michelle Gildernew and Conor Murphy claimed more than £500,000 over five years even though the Sinn Fein MPs refuse to attend Parliament

Alan Duncan spent thousands from his allowance on gardening, including repairs to his lawnmower. He has agreed to repay £5,000

Caroline Flint claimed £14,000 for fees for new flat

Barbara Follett used £25,000 of taxpayers' money to pay for private security patrols at her home

Andrew George used parliamentary expenses for a London flat used by his student daughter

Michelle Gildernew, Pat Doherty, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, and Conor Murphy claimed more than £500,000 over five years even though the Sinn Fein MPs refuse to attend Parliament

Cheryl Gillan bought dog food using her allowance but agreed to pay it back after being contacted by the Telegraph.

Julia Goldsworthy spent thousands of pounds on expensive furniture just days before the deadline for using up parliamentary allowances

Michael Gove spent thousands on his London home before "flipping" his Commons allowance to another address. He has agreed to repay £7,000

Chris Grayling claimed for a London flat even though his constituency home is only 17 miles from the House of Commons. He has agreed to stop doing so

John Gummer's gardening, including the removal of moles from his lawn, cost the taxpayer £9,000

Nick Harvey had to be reminded twice by parliamentary officials to submit receipts with his expenses claims

Alan Haselhurst charged the taxpayer almost £12,000 for gardening bills at his farmhouse in Essex, his expenses claims show.

David Heathcoat-Amory’s gardener used hundreds of sacks of horse manure and the MP submitted the receipts to Parliament

Nick Herbert charged taxpayers more than £10,000 for stamp duty and fees when he and his partner bought a home together in his constituency

Douglas Hogg included with his expenses claims the cost of having the moat cleared, piano tuned and stable lights fixed at his country manor house.

Geoff Hoon established a property empire worth £1.7 million after claiming taxpayer-funded expenses for at least two properties

Phil Hope spent more than £10,000 in one year refurbishing a small London flat

Kelvin Hopkins claims just a fraction of the available second-home allowance by taking the train to Westminster from his home town

Chris Huhne regularly submits receipts for bus tickets and groceries including pints of milk, fluffy dusters, lavatory rolls and chocolate HobNobs

Stewart Jackson claimed more than £66,000 for his family home, including hundreds of pounds on refurbishing his swimming pool. He has agreed to repay the costs associated with his pool

Andrew Lansley spent more than £4,000 of taxpayers’ money renovating his country home months before he sold it. He will repay £2,600 of decorating fees

Oliver Letwin repaired a pipe beneath his tennis court using taxpayers' money. He has agreed to repay the money

Lord Mandelson faces questions over the timing of his house claim

Bob Marshall-Andrews claimed £118,000 for expenses at his second home, including stereo equipment, extensive redecoration and a pair of Kenyan carpets.

Michael Martin used taxpayers' money to pay for chauffeur-driven cars to his local job centre and Celtic's football ground

Francis Maude claimed almost £35,000 in two years for mortgage interest payments on a London flat when he owned a house just a few hundred yards away. He has agreed to stop claiming for a second home

Martin McGuinness, Michelle Gildernew, Pat Doherty, Gerry Adams and Conor Murphy claimed more than £500,000 over five years even though the Sinn Fein MPs refuse to attend Parliament

David Miliband's spending was queried by his gardener

Margaret Moran switched the address of her second home, allowing her to claim £22,500 to fix a dry rot problem. She has agreed to repay the money while insisting she acted within the rules

Lembit Opik had to pay £2,499 for a 42” plasma television himself after he bought it after Parliament had dissolved

George Osborne was rebuked by the Commons authorities for using public money to fund his "political" website. He also claimed money for a chauffeur-driven car which he has agreed to repay

Conor Murphy, Martin McGuinness, Michelle Gildernew, Pat Doherty and Gerry Adams claimed more than £500,000 over five years even though the Sinn Fein MPs refuse to attend Parliament

Paul Murphy had a new plumbing system installed at taxpayers’ expense because the water in the old one was “too hot”

John Prescott claimed for two lavatory seats in two years

Alan Reid claimed more than £1,500 on his parliamentary expenses for staying in hotels and bed-and-breakfasts near his home

John Reid used his allowance to pay for slotted spoons, an ironing board and a glittery loo seat

Angus Robertson successfully appealed to the fees office when they turned down his claim for a £400 home cinema system

Alex Salmond claimed £400 per month for food when the Commons was not even sitting

Michael Spicer claimed for work on his helipad and received thousands of pounds for gardening bills.

Jack Straw only paid half the amount of council tax that he claimed on his parliamentary allowances over four years but later rectified the over-claim

Kitty Ussher ansked the Commons authorities to fund extensive refurbishment of her Victorian family home

Keith Vaz claimed £75,500 for a second flat near Parliament even though he already lived just 12 miles from Westminster

Theresa Villiers claimed almost £16,000 in stamp duty and professional fees on expenses when she bought a London flat, even though she already had a house in the capital. She has agreed to stop claiming the second home allowance

Tom Watson and Iain Wright spent £100,000 of taxpayers' money on the London flat they once shared

Steve Webb sold his London flat and bought another nearby, while the taxpayer picked up an £8,400 bill for stamp duty

Shaun Woodward received £100,000 to help pay mortgage

David Willetts, the Conservatives' choice for skills minister, needed help changing light bulbs. He has agreed to repay the bill

Phil Woolas submitted receipts including comics, nappies and women's clothing as part of his claims for food

Iain Wright and Tom Watson spent £100,000 of taxpayers' money on the London flat they once shared

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 5:07 pm
by Bill Henry
Ah, better gum'mint through transparency.

Now you can rest easier knowing where your hard earned taxes are going.

Discouraging, ain't it?

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 6:54 pm
by Moglet
And some people wonder why I express distrust of many politicians...

After the back-to-back stories of "Torie sleaze" behaviour in the mid-90's in the UK, I can remember the feeling of optimism in the country when New Labour had a landslide victory in the general election of 1997. I even stayed up most of the night watching the electoral returns (not typical behaviour for me at the time, by a long chalk!).

Once in power, IMO they behaved far worse than the party that they had ousted on the premise that "Things Can Only Get Better." Within a few years of their being in power, I remember hearing a comment in an "investigative" style current affairs editorial (not sure if it was on TV or in a newspaper - sincere apologies that I can't quote the source) where the journalist advised the audience that within two years of New Labour coming to power, the spend on running Whitehall went from £2 billion to £8 billion. The above revelations explain a lot about where that money was going...

And all that was happening when they were bleating about not having enough money to improve services and waiting list times for the NHS. Bring on the transparency, I say. In spades!!!

"Four legs good. Two legs better."

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 7:06 pm
by prospero
......... but some are more equal than others. :wink:

Still, they have to get shot of all the speeding fine money somewhere.


Yep. The whole affair is taking on a distinct Orwellian flavour.

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 7:14 pm
by Moglet
Reckon we passed that point many, many years ago.

Given the brainwashing-via-mass-media, and the fact that many people rely on 'cosmetic psychopharmacology' to just cope with many of the additional life stresses and control-motivated fearmongering we are subjected to, Mr. Huxley also deserves honourable mention here.

As does Mr. Waters:

"What a surprise!
The look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No-o-o-o-o-o, this is no bad dream."

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 8:16 pm
by Roboframer
I don't now feel quite so bad about marking my frames up a few quid to get me to Vegas!

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 8:38 pm
by Moglet
I don't think you should feel any way suspect about that, John. In fairness, your Vegas trip was to invest in knowledge by attending the fair, with which to serve your customers better. :)

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 8:39 pm
by Moglet
BTW, Gesso, what source did you get the above from?

Re: Piggies

Posted: Wed 13 May, 2009 10:15 pm
by prospero

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 7:22 am
by gesso
Moglet wrote:BTW, Gesso, what source did you get the above from?

Never been one for reading the Tory press but since waking up to the fact that there hasn't been a genuine Labour party since 97
I now read most of the papers with a huge seller of salt (rock salt of course) at hand.

Here's the link that supplied the list

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... graph.html

ps I noticed the Sinn Fein bashing, with multiple entries, tried to edit by deleting all but one but couldn't.

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 7:36 am
by gesso
Lookin back to my London days I think I may have benefitted from some of these scams!

I use to frame all the ex Lord Chancellor's (Derry Irvine) Cartoons, along with entries in my invoice book for a
Peter Mandelson, Robin Cook, Alan Clark (he of the diaries) & Nicholas Soames.

.................I'll get me coat! :sweating:

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 2:46 pm
by Bill Henry
Moglet wrote:BTW, Gesso, what source did you get the above from?
It's been all over the news here, picked up from the Telegraph, I think. The one that is getting the most play is the bags of manure.

Those kind of abuses used to be common here until public records were force to become available to anyone. I read that it took several years for the reporter to be able to access the records. She was stonewalled by employees (clerks) at Parliament until she went to court.

I'll bet that the flagrant misuse of public funds will dwindle down to almost nothing in the future. It did over here.

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 5:11 pm
by Moglet
Long overdue, Bill. I bet the politicians would not be so free and easy with their own money...

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 5:31 pm
by Bill Henry
There was a story a few years ago about some Alaskan state legislator who put some home repairs on the state’s dime. When the story broke, a few constituents got together and showed up at the guy’s doorstep demanding to enter his house and enjoy their tax money.

The legislator wouldn’t let them in, of course, and called the local sheriff to have them arrested (which was, apparently, what the protesters had in mind). When the cop got there, the slimeball decided against having them thrown in jail since the resultant trial and publicity would have further put him in the spotlight. It did make for a good story so the group was satisfied.

So, why don’t a few of you guys get together and show up at your representative’s doorstep and demanding to see his/her new patio? It ought to be good for a few laughs and your names in the paper. :P

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 8:51 pm
by Not your average framer
Hey, these guys a part of the govenments plan to inject more money into the UK economy!:giggle:

What would you say if some of these guys regularly brought you high value framing orders?

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 9:15 pm
by Bill Henry
That would obviously be an entirely different circumstance. :wink:

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 9:40 pm
by Not your average framer
HI Bill,

How right you are! :D

Re: Piggies

Posted: Thu 14 May, 2009 10:39 pm
by Roboframer
prospero wrote:Humphreyology :talking:
Rabology :lol:

Re: Piggies

Posted: Fri 15 May, 2009 9:11 pm
by Not your average framer
We get quite a lot of MP's around here. I don't know if they live locally, if they have local connections, or just passing through. Not being all that clued up on MP's names, I don't usually realise that they are MP's until I phone to say that their framing is ready and find myself speaking to their secretaries or campaign offices.

As far as I know none of them represent anywhere local to me. I'm told that our transport links to London are very good, which may explain why so many people who work in London are based around here.

It's easy to be very private around here, if you want to be. There's lots of out of the way houses, which you would need detailed directions to find how to get to them, etc. Our local economy benefits a lot from people who live here, but work in London. I've usually no idea what they do for a living, but most of them are obviously financially doing alright.

Re: Piggies

Posted: Fri 15 May, 2009 9:29 pm
by Roboframer
I took a bit of a bashing on a military forum (not ARRSE) yesterday when I said 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone' and referred to dodgy claims that everyone knew went on bigtime in the Army.

I asked if anyone had, or knew anyone (but had failed to report them) who had made a fraudulent claim. I knew one of those cases would be true for pretty much all on that particular outrage bus!

Things like MMA - Motor Mileage allowance - there was a leave rate, a duty rate and a residence to place of duty rate.

When stationed in the Salisbury plain area, lots of people seemed to like to take leave in Scotland! That was if they drove - not many rail warrants were exchanged for tickets to Scotland!

If you were allocated a married quarter outside X miles of your base you could claim 'Res to POD' - you couldn't fix the distance travelled - but you could car share and still claim and many did and maybe still do - I have no idea if the entitlements still exist, but if not there will be similar/others.

Mind you - get caught out and you can look out!

My point is - where there is an entitlement to be claimed from government funds - it WILL be abused. Might not be so easy after all this though - and I bet our taxes will take a nice dip as a result.

NOT!