Help for a beginner please

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Help for a beginner please

Post by speedy641 » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 11:17 am

My first posting so please do excuse gaffs, wrong terms etc..

I am attempting to mount some hand coloured lino prints, printed on heavy (300gms) water colour paper. I am getting confused as the correct way to do this. I am keen to mount these well using the correct materials (ie ones that will not cause later problems with acids etc).

So as I understand it (please correct any of this), I attach the print to a board using the hinge method , two small hinges along the top edge of the artwork. I have bought "Lineco, Linen Gummed Hinging Tape" for this, is this ok? Additionally, what should this backing board be made from?

Then on top of this is a window cut second mount which I understand needs to be acid free etc - how does this mount attach to the mount underneath and with what do I attach it?

I am then intending to pack this entire thing in clear plastic (bought from 'Lion").

I would be very grateful for any corrections to 'what I already understand', as well as the best places to buy any recommended materials.

Thanks in advance for your help on all this.

Roboframer

Re: Help for a beginner please

Post by Roboframer » Mon 16 Nov, 2009 8:14 pm

Welcome to the forum Speedy - Gawd 9 hours and no reply, what's this place like!
speedy641 wrote: I have bought "Lineco, Linen Gummed Hinging Tape" for this, is this ok?
No, it's not - The best hinges for artwork are made from pure kozo Japanese handmade tissue, you buy it in sheets and make hingeing strips yourself, then you apply freshly cooked starch paste - which you also make yourself - it's a bit of a skill but prices per sq ft work out cheaper than most pre-gummed stuff.

Next best thing would be stuff like 'Hayaku' hingeing tape - Lion sell it and Preservation equipment do as wel, http://www.preservationequipment.com/ plus all the Japaneses tissues and starch paste powders, next best thing would be something like Filmoplast P90.
speedy641 wrote:Additionally, what should this backing board be made from?
From the same board as your window mount, usually.
speedy641 wrote:Then on top of this is a window cut second mount which I understand needs to be acid free etc - how does this mount attach to the mount underneath and with what do I attach it?
Hinged - along one long side - with the gummed linen tape you have bought, so that it opens like a book.

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Re: Help for a beginner please

Post by Jonny2morsos » Tue 17 Nov, 2009 12:12 am

I would have said this tape

http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/ARCH-G ... ,7967.aspx

would be preferable to Filmoplast P90

http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/FILMOP ... ,9084.aspx

You will note the description for P90 says it should not come within 40mm of image!

Otherwise in agreement with your comments and I assume you would be talking about a minimum of conservation quality mount board.

John.

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Worst, Better, Best

Post by Roboframer » Tue 17 Nov, 2009 12:34 am

OK - to simplify

Best - pure Kozo & starch paste - anything below - you don't know what's in it - it's not food-labelled and if the adhesive needs to be water activated then it must contain some chemicals/stabilizers/preservatives - hayaku for example contains nylon.

Second best -(or 'better') a 'mulberry' type tape with a water activated adhesive - such as hayaku -
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/HAYAKU ... ,9027.aspx

or

http://www.preservationequipment.com/St ... ging-Paper

or the stuff in your link - but the edges are not feathered - I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no such thing as a consevation quality hingeing TAPE.

Third best - (or 'worst) a pressure sensitive tape 'such as' FP90. Thing is, 'Third Best' just isn't good enough if you want to do it 'right' and second best, is ....................... second best.

As for conservation quality mountboard, yes, of course, high quality wood OR cotton Alpha Cellulose - both offer the same protection but one costs more! Then there's artcare.

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Re: Help for a beginner please

Post by Nigel Nobody » Tue 17 Nov, 2009 1:38 am

"Archival Paper Hinging Tape - Gummed. White paper tape, of high tensile strength."

The bit about high tensile strength would worry me. If a frame is dropped, it's best if the hinge tears instead of the paper the art is on! These guys are promoting the strength of the paper, which is really a disadvantage, not an advantage!
I also don't like "gummed" adhesives on the art paper, not even Hyaku!

In the P90 description it says "When framing to conservation standard, position tape at least 40mm from image." This is a pressure sensitive tape and as Robo said, those tapes are not "conservation" standard! No matter whether you place the tape 40mm or 40 klms away from the art, it will never be "conservation" standard!

PS. I do use P90 tape where customers won't pay the extra for Kozo hinging. Yes, I do charge more for Kozo hinging because it takes me longer and requires more bench space to allow for drying time!

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Re: Help for a beginner please

Post by MITREMAN » Tue 17 Nov, 2009 11:51 am

A little help on the subject

http://www.framersequipment.co.uk/FEL_T ... t_2009.pdf

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Re: Help for a beginner please

Post by MITREMAN » Thu 19 Nov, 2009 10:23 am

There are many types of hinging tapes/papers and methods of use, some better than others, each has its own use and tests should be done to choose the correct method and weight of your paper hinge/tape for the type of artwork prior to attaching to it.

IMHO A Tape such as "- Gummed. White paper tape, of high tensile strength." has its uses, but you should still always do a test and be aware of its uses, the artwork should be a stronger/greater weight of paper than the Archival Paper Hinging Tape so if anything does give its the hinge, that way no damage to the artwork is done.

Some framers still think they can buy one tape/paper and use it on everything.....

IMHO I believe there are still to many framers using masking tape and we all no the damage that it can cause, with such a good range of tapes and papers/glues available, such as the best method pure Kozo & starch paste why do they still use it.

To save time? Money? or lack of knowledge?

Thats way I believe the members of this forum try and promote the best methods for other to follow.

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