baseball cap

[Roboframer]

Framed for free for a charity do, local hospice.

There's a small mirror behind the Mercedes star, the 'O' was a V groove I'd painted red, but I changed my mind, that's why it looks like half the bevel is red.

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Photo of Hamilton at the Goodwood festival of speed. Mount bevel painted red. Larson Juhl 'Manhattan' frame sits inside a flat plainwood moulding (which I painted black) mitred on its side. The red mount board behind the letters is from Neilsen's scary range (new-ish - loud colours, can't remember the name of the range)

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[silvercleave]

another Robo Classic.....Great

How did you join the cove box to the red edged mount?

Ian

[Roboframer]

How did you join the cove box to the red edged mount?

The sides of the cove are V grooved about 20mm in so that they fold back to make a flap to stick to the mount, you can't see the V grooves because they are on the back. For the way they are folded they should be on the front, but seeing as the not-too-neat fold is hidden, it was quicker to cut those at the same time as all the other cuts on the back.

Had to turn the whole thing over to cut the letters and the photo aperture (was thinking of putting a model McLaren in there - no time though)

Oh, and I cut the letters with no centres but the 'A' looked like carp, so I cut a separate 'A' with a centre and stuck that tiny triangle in.

[mikeysaling]

beautiful job ! very well done

[JohnMcafee]

I hesitate to mention it, because the job looks so fantastic, but you might want to consider kerning the next time you are cutting text.

Great job.

[Roboframer]

Being a calligrapher I should have worked that one out, the 'T' is too far over for a start - great big gap between that and the 'L'.

My framer used to have his own printing business too!

[silvercleave]

Thanks Robo.................................hope it raises a load for the charity


Ian

[Roboframer]

Me too, this is the event. For the same function have also framed a Brighton marathon shirt signed by Steve Ovett and a Brighton football shirt, signed by - just default on those.

[Not your average framer]

Hi John,

That's what I call "style"! Great presentation!

[stcstc]

robo

if you dont mind me asking how is the cap held in?

and how is the black in the base of the cove held there

[Roboframer]

The cap is fixed with 3 tags, left, right and centre rear. The left and right you can actually see, well you can't see the actual tags, they're under the edging of the peak, but they have interrupted its shape. Stitches would have been better - and still might be as I'm probably going to re-do the 'HAMIL TON' and may as well re-mount the cap while I'm at it.

The black in the base ...... I just deleted all but that V groove in the CMC design, changed it from a V groove to a normal bevel cut; cut it out of black board and it dropped in perfectly. It hides the folds in the metallic silver board, which weren't too clever, need to experiment, thinking a ninety degree score may make for a better crease than a V Groove, like the look of a different coloured base anyway. Fixed with PVA and a few spots of ATG tape.

[stcstc]

thanks robo,

i guess tags but wasnt sure

[Bagpuss]

Just looked at this Roboframer, a lovely piece of work. I know you said it was donated free for a charity event but I was just wondering, for a job like this, if a customer came in and said he wanted something original for his/her Lewis Hamilton cap, how would you go about pricing something like this ?? Would you give the customer a price whilst in the shop or would you get back to him ? I'd be interested to know.
Thanks,
Adam/Bagpuss

[Jonny2morsos]

Did you use Arial from the fonts in the text tool within the toolbox? I do a fair number of mounts with names and find it a real pain to fiddle around nudging the letters until they look right.

Perhaps this is something the Valiani Support Group could address?

[Roboframer]

Unless the customer, like this one, gave me carte blanche, I'd work out a price on the spot. Once I've established a glass size I know what to charge for a complete frame if it were a single mounted print - the little black dress of my price chart.

After that it's quite easy to work out extra costs as long as it's something I already have covered; everything here was.

If it was a (paying) carte blanche job I still wouldn't just go ahead, I'd make sure the design and/or the price had been confirmed first.

[Roboframer]

Did you use Arial from the fonts in the text tool within the toolbox? I do a fair number of mounts with names and find it a real pain to fiddle around nudging the letters until they look right.

Yes, that's what I used but I didn't fiddle around with them, should have and will do in future. I suppose all you have to do is capture the letters you want and alter the 'X' spacing? But yes, would be nice if kerning was done automatically.

[Jonny2morsos]

Just select the letter you want to move and make the adjustments using the arrow keys. I am at home now so not using the computer connected to the cmc but from memory one key stroke = 1mm movement of the item selected. Don't forget to select the centre of letters e.g. middle of O, Q, D etc. and move them by the same amount.

I find using the colour preview helps to show when letters are correctly spaced. Once letters are spaced correctly grab the whole lot and centre up then adjust top and bottom borders.

[Merlin]

For Valliani FMD users.
Each character in the ‘Toolbox’ Font folder is treated as a graphic (picture) and NOT as a proportional font character. So Kerning cannot be applied in typography terms.
When you apply 'Character Spacing' in the 'Text' drop down box, you are setting the distance from the extreme right hand edge of the character (graphic) to the extreme left hand edge of the next character (graphic).

As J2M suggested, it helps using the colour preview to see the character spacing and when moving a character do not forget to include the internals as well.

On my system the use of the arrow keys moves the selected character by 3mm.

[kev@frames]

lovely job!

I always wondered what "kerning" was when I see it on the screen when I'm cutting font letters on the wizard.
now I know.
maybe I should avail myself of the next free training session

[Graysalchemy]

Since reading JohnMcafee comment about the T it rather sticks out like a saw thumb.

Also you are using my least favourite moulding Manhattan . I remember when the Larson rep showed it me, Yes a Larson rep it is that old. I know it is a Marmite moulding you either like it or loath it, but I am in the loath it camp ( but I do love Marmite ).

The box on the back looks good, I found the software on here for generating that I will have to figure out how to convert that to a format a DFX file for the trucut.

Cheers

Alistair