Applying fabric to Fome-cor to create a matt-board

ross · Post by **ross** » Thu 22 Mar, 2007 11:59 am

Have a situation where a customer has requested a fabric matt-board that has a larger depth than conventional matt-boards

We have been able to achieve a result by using and cutting a fabric to size and then adhering it to 5mm Fome-cor to create the desired result. However, we have encountered two difficulties:

. difficulty in making the fabric adhere long-term to the Fome-cor

. achieving nice neat corners - we seem to be getting some looseness in the material and hence it is not quite sitting flat right into the corners

Any suggestions on how to overcome these issues, or any articles you can point me to to persue correct procedure in such a project

Thanks

Ross

markw · Post by **markw** » Thu 22 Mar, 2007 1:37 pm

Had a customer who insisted on having a heavyweight canvas as a mount on all his work. We used spray mount to stick the fabric to the board. We would cut the aperture first - spray the face of the board - spray the back of the material - carefully place the board onto onto the material. You may have to temporarily tape the material down to keep it flat. Turn board over and use something to apply pressure to the material - be careful that you don't get ridges in the material at this stage. Turn board back over - cut material out of aperture leaving enough to wrap edge + a little spare. Carefully cut at 45 degrees in corners so that you can wrap leaving clean corners(I am assuming the aperture has 45 degree bevels). - glue on material should be enough to hold it in place.

We found that if you didn't spray both board and material you wouldn't get good adhesion - trying to place material on the board never worked. You can also dry mount the material if you have a large Hot Press - but this might crush the foam core.

Does it have to be mounted on foam core? mounting material on normal mount board - then cutting as normal can give a nice neat result.

Obviously not conservation grade mounting.

mick11 · Post by **mick11** » Thu 22 Mar, 2007 5:38 pm

Hi Ross,

Try a search here,

http://www.thegrumble.com/

and if nothing comes up ask the question..
Baer Charlton is the recognised expert on this subject..

Keith Hewitt · Post by **Keith Hewitt** » Thu 22 Mar, 2007 6:00 pm

G'day Ross,

I suggest you phone All States Frames in Melbourne. Tel 03 9561 7533. Ask Glenn or John to post you one of theCOLOURMOUNT DEEP BEVEL TAPE leaflets they got from me about 1 month ago.
With the help of the 14 pictures it will show you how to do it. The secret of the corners is to cut the foam at less than 90 degrees, to ensure a tight corner.
Another thing framers have told me is that it can be tricky getting things to stick to the exposed foam bevel edge and that it is easier to stick to thick mount board or even 4.4mm woodpulp board.

Hope this helps you.

Keith Hewitt
COLOURMOUNT BOARD

cleeve_prints · Post by **cleeve_prints** » Mon 26 Mar, 2007 8:35 pm

I recently had to make a shadow box with a velvet lining. I dry mounted it in my HotPress without any problems. Best to lower the pressure to avoid crushing the foam core at the edges. Can't remember the recomended pressure for foam core as the figures are at the workshop.

Steve

Dermot · Post by **Dermot** » Mon 26 Mar, 2007 9:42 pm

http://www.falconeast.com/index.htm …………go to “How To”………..I got …..using this method........"Mighty Muck"......= very good PVA

And some more…
http://www.pictureframingmagazine.com/p ... abmats.pdf

http://www.pictureframingmagazine.com/p ... apmats.pdf

http://www.pictureframingmagazine.com/a ... tting.html

http://www.franksfabrics.com/index.asp

And if you are a member of the PPFA Diana will fax you some more details if you as for information on “Fabric Wrapped Mats”……they cal “Mounts” ……”Mats”……in the USA

ross · Post by **ross** » Fri 20 Apr, 2007 12:35 pm

Keith - a bit late acknowledging your advice - the All States rep has just delivered me a copy of the brochure - quite useful information - thanks for the advise

I guess we have been taking the easy way by using the Alpha Bevel Accent range of product to use the deep bevel accent effect!!

Dermot - thanks for the reference points provided - have read them with interest

Ross

osgood · Post by **osgood** » Fri 20 Apr, 2007 8:40 pm

Dermot wrote:information on “Fabric Wrapped Mats”……they cal “Mounts” ……”Mats”……in the USA

We call them "mats" down here in Oz too. There are a few people who call them "mounts", but not too many. It's less confusing to have a different word for two totally different things.
The following quote from Mark is a perfect example of why it's a good idea for them to be called "mats":

Had a customer who insisted on having a heavyweight canvas as a mount on all his work. We used spray mount to stick the fabric to the board.

"Spray mount" is called "spray adhesive" down here!
Seems that you guys up there in the mother country just love the word "mount" for some reason. I wonder how many more meanings you might have for it?

By the way, spray "adhesive" is very unreliable, long term, no matter how it's used. Some areas stick well and other areas come apart easily, even when it's applied to both surfaces.