I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
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I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
Hi all,
We have just had a nice break in Geneva, full of shops with stunning watches, designer clothes etc.
I saw this in the window of a fancy shop and thought the frame is ghastly (just my opinion), but also does not suit the painting. I don't mind the painting, although i would not have it on my wall, but i think the frame is all wrong.
Thought it would be interesting to see what others think and if you have come across frames that don't work on your travels.
Nick
We have just had a nice break in Geneva, full of shops with stunning watches, designer clothes etc.
I saw this in the window of a fancy shop and thought the frame is ghastly (just my opinion), but also does not suit the painting. I don't mind the painting, although i would not have it on my wall, but i think the frame is all wrong.
Thought it would be interesting to see what others think and if you have come across frames that don't work on your travels.
Nick
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
I tried rotating it, but it stayed the same each time i did it.
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
Hi Fusionframer
I've edited your post to rotate the image. Once you've attached it, click on the small circle/arrow next to the attachment description and a thumbnail image of the photo will show. Then click or tap on the image itself. It will spin around. When it is in the right orientation click save just below the image and then re-submit your post.
Photos on smartphones that are taken in landscape format tend to load correctly, those in portrait format will need to be spun to the correct orientation. I do try to check all posts as they are loaded and spin images where needed.
I've edited your post to rotate the image. Once you've attached it, click on the small circle/arrow next to the attachment description and a thumbnail image of the photo will show. Then click or tap on the image itself. It will spin around. When it is in the right orientation click save just below the image and then re-submit your post.
Photos on smartphones that are taken in landscape format tend to load correctly, those in portrait format will need to be spun to the correct orientation. I do try to check all posts as they are loaded and spin images where needed.
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
Nick,
I totally agree
Did you go in and ask them for their opinion?
In my experience framers are usually always pleased to meet framers from other countries, and compare shop layout, corner samples and mount boards
Especially in Switzerland where there are basically just 2 distributors, who IMHO have somehow managed to agree to keep prices artificially high.
You will find that the 3 best selling brands of mount board dont even sell in UK.
So quite a different market from UK.
And prices are eye wateringly high.
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I totally agree
Did you go in and ask them for their opinion?
In my experience framers are usually always pleased to meet framers from other countries, and compare shop layout, corner samples and mount boards
Especially in Switzerland where there are basically just 2 distributors, who IMHO have somehow managed to agree to keep prices artificially high.
You will find that the 3 best selling brands of mount board dont even sell in UK.
So quite a different market from UK.
And prices are eye wateringly high.
Unable report on mdgs. I'm not a sticks man
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
No likey, too skinny, too bland and blue is cold, gold is warm.
I’d rather have a skinny float frame and I hate float frames
I’d rather have a skinny float frame and I hate float frames
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
Yes, it's horrible.
And you too felt it was so horrible that you photographed it and posted it up here for our opinions.
Yet the guy who commissioned that frame didn't think it was horrible!
Was it the artist? - 'doubt it.
Was it the shop? - you wouldn't have thought so, yet they're still unashamed to have it in their window display.
Or was it the framer!!!
The positive thing to take away from this is the recognition that some things are just ugly and need no justification to support that.
The world is safe when there are still people like you who see that.
Here's a wonderful quotation I came across on another forum (you can tell how busy I am) -
"Never look at an ugly thing twice, it is fatally easy to get accustomed to corrupting influences."
C.F.A. Voysey
And you too felt it was so horrible that you photographed it and posted it up here for our opinions.
Yet the guy who commissioned that frame didn't think it was horrible!
Was it the artist? - 'doubt it.
Was it the shop? - you wouldn't have thought so, yet they're still unashamed to have it in their window display.
Or was it the framer!!!
The positive thing to take away from this is the recognition that some things are just ugly and need no justification to support that.
The world is safe when there are still people like you who see that.
Here's a wonderful quotation I came across on another forum (you can tell how busy I am) -
"Never look at an ugly thing twice, it is fatally easy to get accustomed to corrupting influences."
C.F.A. Voysey
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
Thanks for comments (and thank you Tudor rose for rotating)
Keith
Unfortunately i couldn't go in, most shops still close on Sundays, but i would have gone in otherwise.
I agree Jkx, i would rather have it in a float frame and i am not a fan either.
Vintage frames, yes correct i thought it was ghastly, but i then wonder whether it is me and am interested in other opinions. To be fair, i think that moulding wouldn't suit any painting.
I didn't see more frames to compare, but will hopefully be going again when we will have a bit more time.
Cheers
Nick
Keith
Unfortunately i couldn't go in, most shops still close on Sundays, but i would have gone in otherwise.
I agree Jkx, i would rather have it in a float frame and i am not a fan either.
Vintage frames, yes correct i thought it was ghastly, but i then wonder whether it is me and am interested in other opinions. To be fair, i think that moulding wouldn't suit any painting.
I didn't see more frames to compare, but will hopefully be going again when we will have a bit more time.
Cheers
Nick
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Love that quotevintage frames wrote: ↑Tue 21 Mar, 2023 1:37 pm
Here's a wonderful quotation I came across on another forum (you can tell how busy I am) -
"Never look at an ugly thing twice, it is fatally easy to get accustomed to corrupting influences."
C.F.A. Voysey
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In my opinion that painting deserves that frame.
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
I don't much like the painting either Justintime, but i have always remembered what i was told by the framer who helped me when i was starting. He said,
"Your choice of frame can make a bad piece of art look good or a good piece of art look bad."
In this case, they have made a bad painting look worse.
Nick
"Your choice of frame can make a bad piece of art look good or a good piece of art look bad."
In this case, they have made a bad painting look worse.
Nick
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"Polishing a turd" springs to mind...
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
It's not actually bad as such. All you can say is that it's got a frame on it.
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I guess the Swiss have different tastes to the UK. Who would have thought it...
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The tv programme mythbusters proved you can polish a turd! I think an elephants turd worked the best
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Polishing turds is a difficult business - but...
...you can roll them in glitter!!!
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It really doesn't bother me, certainly not enough to create a post about it.
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"It really doesn't bother me, certainly not enough to create a post about it."
Apologies, shan't do it again.
Apologies, shan't do it again.
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I hope you will continue to actively engage with the Forum - your post has had plenty of views and comment and sparked a discussion. Nothing wrong with that.
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Re: I saw this in a shop in Geneva- what do you think?
It has the look of the sixtys. frame and image, perhaps its a bit of old stock .