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Thanks for all these helpful replies:

I can't really travel to see the seller do another demo because he was 150 miles away.

I've contacted keencut and I will speak to them next week, although on my intial call to them it was intimated that parts are no longer available.

The good thing to come out of this is that I have found this forum to be very friendly. I may not turn out to be a major contributor because I have a heavy workload, but the fact that the real craftsmen are willing to help is inspiring.

With regards to roboframer: I accept his apologies, and on reflection, my introduction and first post was not really as mature and considered as it should have been. I came across as being a person who wanted quick advice before running off, and so from my part I should asy 'sorry' for not taking a bit more time.

Whilst it is off topic - the way we communicate on the internet has always been of interest to me. Most of us perhaps do write too quickly and sometimes without really pausing to review how we might have put out message across.

I know that I do and my signature should perhaps reflect that.

I'll let you know how my keencut situation develops next week - it might be of benefit to others.

washy21 wrote: Whilst it is off topic - the way we communicate on the internet has always been of interest to me. Most of us perhaps do write too quickly and sometimes without really pausing to review how we might have put out message across.

and no-one can see the expression on our face as we type the words and we all have our own way of speaking. Sometimes when we read, we interpret differently to what was meant by the writer who could have a different grasp of the English language than we do!

We may have been having a bad day, week, month and our moods can effect what we type. An event that happened that day that pissed us off can have an effect.

There are many factors which can lead to misinterpretations!

So that’s all right then.

Not.

OK, some pimply youth with no life experience, whose only knowledge of computers is through interactive games where you can be as brutal and vicious as you like, and nobody really gets hurt, might be able to get away with such a mealy-mouthed excuse.

An adult would just say ‘sorry’, Osgood, ‘sorry, I must have come across as a real self-important arse a few posts back.’ It wouldn’t matter a hoot what look was on their face as they typed these words, the meaning would be perfectly clear. (Though wouldn’t you agree, Osgood, that mature people do their best not to be an arse in the first place, self-important or otherwise.)

washy21 wrote: I've contacted keencut and I will speak to them next week, although on my intial call to them it was intimated that parts are no longer available.

Hi Washy21,

I would not worry too much about the spare parts availability unless the need arises. The main areas of wear on a mountcutter are the bearing surfaces.

If a problem arises with any rotary bearings on almost anything there will be standard off the shelf parts easily available elsewhere. Almost all rotary bearing solutions are implemented by the original designer using standard parts.

If a problem arises which the linear movement bearings these, are the ones the cutting head slides on along the main bar, your first option is to adjust the play in these as considerable provision will have been allowed to compensate for wear. Eventually the wear may exceed that which can be adjusted for. A that time you will need new bearings.

If you are worried about the availability of these linear bearing, then a quick call to Keencut will clarify the situation and if available you can get a set just in case.

I have a Keencut Dart at home which is even older that your Laser and was able to fully recondition it with spares from Keencut. Keencut also have most, if not all, of their old user manuals available in PDF format, which they can email to you, or you can down load yourself.

As you have already said that the previous owner demonstrated it to you by cutting a perfect mount, it is reasonable to assume that you can too!

So, first thing to do is to quickly check that there is no excess play in either the linear bearings for the cutting head or the rotary bearings for the blale carrier. If there is refer to the manual for instructions and adjust as appropiate to correct the problem.

Second, make sure that the blades you use are upto the job.

Third, check the calibration of the stops of your mountcutter. Again refer to the manual.

And finally practice cutting mounts.

Framing Norah wrote:So that’s all right then.

Not.

OK, some pimply youth with no life experience, whose only knowledge of computers is through interactive games where you can be as brutal and vicious as you like, and nobody really gets hurt, might be able to get away with such a mealy-mouthed excuse.

An adult would just say ‘sorry’, Osgood, ‘sorry, I must have come across as a real self-important arse a few posts back.’ It wouldn’t matter a hoot what look was on their face as they typed these words, the meaning would be perfectly clear. (Though wouldn’t you agree, Osgood, that mature people do their best not to be an arse in the first place, self-important or otherwise.)

Norah,

There is a big difference between an excuse and a reason. My post just listed some reasons. I certainly didn't imply that any one of those reasons applies in every case. Especially not some extreme example that is very unlikely to happen on this particular forum!

We should always be careful not to judge others, especially those we don't even know!

Osgood wrote:My post just listed some reasons...

No need to spell it out Osgood, your intentions were abundantly clear. We know what your post did.

And what it failed to do.

Norah,

Your remarks indicate that you just have no idea what my intentions were! You don't have access to my thoughts and you don't want to understand anything anyone says or does if it is not in complete agreement with your thoughts!

You just go on inventing whatever you wish and judging other people as you wish!

Oh yeah, Norah....I forgot to say that I make no apology for my first post on this topic. It's what I believe and if you don't agree, that's fine with me!

Good man Osgood!

You're half way there.

Now that you've told us what you are not going to apologise for, it would be great if you could just take that next step...

Is it me, or is this topic developing a slightly Pythonesque tone?

You noticed that too prospero?

I also thought that we had wandered into The Ministry Of Silly Excuses (or should that be Reasons?)

I'm thinking more of the restaurant sketch that starts off with a dirty fork and ends in utter carnage.