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Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 2:57 pm
by muffinski
Just been looking through some of the posts about pneumatic underpinners for recommendations, however, a lot of the models recommended are no longer available such as alpha minigraf 4. I am just wondering if anyone has recently purchased one of the newer models.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 3:31 pm
by Whitewater Gallery
I use an XL2 version of this one currently advertised on this Forum

http://theframersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14027

The jaws drop down leaving a flat surface to slide the moulding in and out which is brilliant particularly with large frames. That option is something like £500 extra but well worth it in my view.

I have no experience with other pneumatic machines but apart from a gripe about a couple of plastic parts, which can be replaced easily should they break, I would would be surprised if this machine would disappoint unless you are into production framing.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 4:20 pm
by GeoSpectrum
I bought a Casese CS20 Cart about 8months ago and I'm very happy with it. It my first air underpinner and I'm getting very good results.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 7:51 pm
by muffinski
Alan what compressor do you use? have you found any limitations with regards to molding size you can underpin?

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 8:14 pm
by Graysalchemy
That cassese 199 is an excellent machine, you will easily run it off a twin pot bambi though a single pot my struggle, you need about 6 bar for an underpinner, though it's the reserve and flow which is equally important especially if you are pinning multiple frames in quick succession.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 8:20 pm
by muffinski
Thanks Grays for reply Unfortunately cassese 199 is no longer available to buy new from what I can gather.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 9:06 pm
by Graysalchemy
Its not but the example which is advertised on the forum looks in good condition. Cassese are very well made machines and should last a long time, my 3099 is probably 9 yrs old now and going very well. I am not quite sure which is the new equivalent model from cassese is. I wouldn't have a problem buying a second hand 199 they don't have any electrics in them (unlike the 3099) and seem very robust.

Re: Pneumatic underpinner

Posted: Sun 13 Mar, 2016 10:19 pm
by kevin
I had a cassese 199 for 8 years. Recently I purchased a cassese cs200. It is a very good machine and I would say it is an update of the 199.